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I've noticed threads where the OP presents an unpopular idea, or just a poorly presented one. Posters pile on the criticism, right and left. The OP might initially try to defend his/her position, but then retreats.

These threads can last for weeks, with one after another coming to chime in. Always, someone will indignantly mention that the OP has disappeared, as if any sane, self respecting person would continue to endure the humiliating barrage of negative feedback that seems to increase in volume with each cutting comment.

It's an interesting phenomena. Human nature is fascinating.

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Weeks? I've seen them pop back up after years. In any case, I tend to get bored with them because everybody is "talking" and no one is "listening".

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It also seems that the later responders can't be bothered to read any previous posts. They read the OP, then post opinions or advice that's been posted 52 times already.

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I've noticed threads where the OP presents an unpopular idea, or just a poorly presented one. Posters pile on the criticism, right and left. The OP might initially try to defend his/her position, but then retreats.

These threads can last for weeks, with one after another coming to chime in. Always, someone will indignantly mention that the OP has disappeared, as if any sane, self respecting person would continue to endure the humiliating barrage of negative feedback that seems to increase in volume with each cutting comment.

It's an interesting phenomena. Human nature is fascinating.

Maybe it stems from a perception of not being heard in real life?

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Maybe it stems from a perception of not being heard in real life?

Could be.

Sometimes, also, it appears to be a lynch mob mentality. People emboldened to pick up their toarches, to tar and feather someone who is generally disliked by the group.

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I've noticed threads where the OP presents an unpopular idea, or just a poorly presented one. Posters pile on the criticism, right and left.

I think that most posts that generate many negative or critical replies are more than just an "unpopular idea". They usually involve some sort of topic which evokes a lot of emotion and the poster's opinion/position happens to be far from the norm (nursing and/or societal). So they generate a lot of replies.. Some admittedly with a hefty dose of umbrage ;) and occasionally lacking tact.

What you perceive as piling on of criticism may just be individual posters who wish to share how they feel on the subject. Perhaps the opinon is a strongly felt one and they don't really pay attention to whether three or thirty posters have already replied, they just want to share their point of view. I can understand why you can view it as a veritable onslaught/barrage due to the sheer number of posts saying pretty much the same thing, but if you try to regard them as individual posts from many different individuals it just might paint a slightly different picture. It's not necessarily a coordinated and mean-spirited attack, just many folks with similar opinions.

I also think that what roser13 said is very true. Many posters don't read all the replies in the thread before posting. They might read OP and perhaps the first page or two. I've seen more than once where the OP actually apologized or thanked posters for the feedback and said that they've taken it to heart somewhere on page three, only to be criticized for their original post by someone on page eleven. However, when this happens most of the time some poster will make the page eleven new arrival aware that OP actually posted something positive on page three. In that sense I think that most people have a sense of fair play.

These threads can last for weeks, with one after another coming to chime in.

It seems like these threads take on a life of their own. After a while posters might not even be responding to OP but to what other posters have written. The thread goes off on tangents and posters address those. And again, there are always those who've skipped reading pages two through eighteen before posting. I think it's just the way it goes. It's the internet.

The OP might initially try to defend his/her position, but then retreats.

I think that the posters who come back and defend their position in a calm and constructive way and when it's warranted admit that their presentation in their OP was perhaps less than ideal, usually seem to treated with more respect. The ones who usually set off a new tidal wave of ire are the ones who come off as overly emotional/offended or resentful (aka butthurt) and launch a counterattack of "you must be a crappy nurse". I realize that it takes a strong and mature person to listen to a large amount of criticism and manage to keep their cool and then reflect and respond calmly, but those individuals really have my respect.

Sometimes, also, it appears to be a lynch mob mentality. People emboldened to pick up their toarches, to tar and feather someone who is generally disliked by the group.

Well, perhaps. I tend to believe that it's more about the annoyance people might feel when someone posts something they strongly disagree with and perhaps frustration when the OP doesn't respond. Emergent, you have to admit that some things some posters post are somewhat befuddling :)

I always feel that it's my own point of view that I'm presenting. I'm not speaking as a member of a group. Sometimes my opinion coincides with the one held by the majority of posters. Sometimes it doesn't. I know that I don't say things here that I wouldn't be willing to say face-to face. I try not to be mean even if I think that the OP is way off base, but as constructive as I can.

I don't know if I succeed or not, others will have to be the judge of that.

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Could be.

Sometimes, also, it appears to be a lynch mob mentality. People emboldened to pick up their toarches, to tar and feather someone who is generally disliked by the group.

Or maybe some posters want that reaction, so we playfully give it to them.

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What macawake says. On all. In particular, I do notice that when a poster does say, "Thanks, you've given me food for thought..." I, and a few other posters WILL point that out to posters that continue to berate.

Then, just when the post dies...it comes up on FB, or OP comes back, and it all starts over again.

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I always feel that it's my own point of view that I'm presenting. I'm not speaking as a member of a group. Sometimes my opinion coincides with the one held by the majority of posters. Sometimes it doesn't. I know that I don't say things here that I wouldn't be willing to say face-to face. I try not to be mean even if I think that the OP is way off base, but as constructive as I can.

I don't know if I succeed or not, others will have to be the judge of that.

Thank you. :yes:

This is exactly what I try to do as well.

I think some take stock and say "you wouldn't say this if you are online" and I think that they are fooling themselves most of the time; we live in a day and age that even on social media with their actual pic people will post and say the most inflammatory stuff imaginable; I would've thought that 12 years ago when I joined, but I don't think that's the case anymore. :no:

When a poster is giving an OP a straight response, I don't doubt that they wouldn't say this in public, or at least the majority; some people have been through enough that their intention may be to "help", but then not every one has that helping "tone" in terms of delivery; and that's real-there have been times in my career the most crusty person can say the most important thing, and I am able to shift through the crust and get the message that is essential to know and will prevent me from killing somebody...and I think some posters are consistently going to do that.

I think most posters have to look at the poster's history; and then think of a response, or do the most mature thing possible and state "thanks for your response" and keep it moving.

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It happens everywhere on the internet these days. It's a Facebook thing, or at least that's where I first started to see it. Forum etiquette is just not what it used to be in the old days. Although allNurses posters seem to expect a kinder gentler internet that what I am used to. Back in my day when the computer made a funny sound when it was online, and you couldn't make a phone call and send an email at the same time, we argued got upset and then got over it because " The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact". The big sin was not following the rules of decorum. If you wanted to participate in the community then you had to learn the rules and culture of that community or you would not get respect.

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It happens everywhere on the internet these days. It's a Facebook thing, or at least that's where I first started to see it. Forum etiquette is just not what it used to be in the old days. Although allNurses posters seem to expect a kinder gentler internet that what I am used to. Back in my day when the computer made a funny sound when it was online, and you couldn't make a phone call and send an email at the same time, we argued got upset and then got over it because " The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact". The big sin was not following the rules of decorum. If you wanted to participate in the community then you had to learn the rules and culture of that community or you would not get respect.

So, it's reflective of life?

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It happens everywhere on the internet these days. It's a Facebook thing, or at least that's where I first started to see it. Forum etiquette is just not what it used to be in the old days. Although allNurses posters seem to expect a kinder gentler internet that what I am used to. Back in my day when the computer made a funny sound when it was online, and you couldn't make a phone call and send an email at the same time, we argued got upset and then got over it because " The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact". The big sin was not following the rules of decorum. If you wanted to participate in the community then you had to learn the rules and culture of that community or you would not get respect.

hahaha! The Internet is old enough to have had "good old days"!

Who remember the dial-up tones? So annoying because it was so frustrating waiting for that connection.

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