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Part 1 of the Democratic Debate on  CNN July 30, 2019

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Exactly how many is a "vast"? 

I have read many stories in the media and in this forum about ridiculously high deductibles and premiums, making it sound like it really isn't working that well. Families with health insurance still go bankrupt over high medical costs. I have a pretty good plan, and yet, so far this year I owe over $5000 in medical expenses, above what my insurance covers.

I belong to a union and my employer refuses to negotiate a contract for more than 2 years because they say the cost of insurance is so unpredictable. I would think employers would welcome some stability in health insurance costs, instead of operating at the whim of a few giant corporations. 

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7 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Exactly how many is a "vast"? 

I have read many stories in the media and in this forum about ridiculously high deductibles and premiums, making it sound like it really isn't working that well. Families with health insurance still go bankrupt over high medical costs. I have a pretty good plan, and yet, so far this year I owe over $5000 in medical expenses, above what my insurance covers.

I belong to a union and my employer refuses to negotiate a contract for more than 2 years because they say the cost of insurance is so unpredictable. I would think employers would welcome some stability in health insurance costs, instead of operating at the whim of a few giant corporations. 

I didn’t say it doesn’t need fixing.  But for most, imo, people won’t be willing to give it up fir Medicare.

 

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people can be educated on the many benefits of a single payer system that excludes no one.  Most of them don't know what they don't know about our unsustainable health insurance and payment. 

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5 hours ago, NurseBlaq said:

 

I think CNN is scrubbing the debate from YouTube. It was there this morning and now it's gone. UGH!

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26 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

I think CNN is scrubbing the debate from YouTube. It was there this morning and now it's gone. UGH!

I was unable to watch the debate because cnn did not live stream the content on YouTube. 

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28 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

I think CNN is scrubbing the debate from YouTube. It was there this morning and now it's gone. UGH!

All debates should be made free so people are able to make informed decisions.  Cable and streaming services are very expensive. 

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20 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I was unable to watch the debate because cnn did not live stream the content on YouTube. 

 

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I watched on line, but it was streaming. I think this has most, but not all of last evening's debate:

 

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1 hour ago, Turtlellini said:

Medicare for all is another liberal pipe dream that will just bankrupt the country even quicker.  Take any liberals cost projections of Medicare for all the triple it would still be underfunded.  

https://thefederalist.com/2015/07/31/medicare-medicaid-same-problems-50-years-ago/

 

Even studies conducted by conservative affiliated groups show a reduced cost to using medicare as our payer rather than the private insurance market, about $2 trillion less over ten years.  And that doesn't consider potential cost reductions by doing more to prevent major costs.  The $2 trillion savings is based on differences in overhead costs and cost inflation between medicare and the private market, these differences aren't projections, they're direct observations.  Is there a particular aspect of these calculations you disagree with?

I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that spending less than we would otherwise will "bankrupt the country even quicker".   

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4 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Even studies conducted by conservative affiliated groups show a reduced cost to using medicare as our payer rather than the private insurance market, about $2 trillion less over ten years.  And that doesn't consider potential cost reductions by doing more to prevent major costs.  The $2 trillion savings is based on differences in overhead costs and cost inflation between medicare and the private market, these differences aren't projections, they're direct observations.  Is there a particular aspect of these calculations you disagree with?

I'm not sure how you've come to the conclusion that spending less than we would otherwise will "bankrupt the country even quicker".   

“Skeptics counter that those savings are not guaranteed, and the lack of a monetary incentive for patients to hold back on services could lead to increased use of the system, adding to the overall cost. In addition, with the government having to raise revenue to pay everyone’s bills, taxes and the federal debt could go dangerously high, potentially canceling out or exceeding the money that individuals and families would save in higher take-home pay and lower health-care expenses.”

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/aug/03/bernie-s/did-conservative-study-show-big-savings-bernie-san/

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