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14 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

The entire premise of the thread is "out of bounds," protesting.

That is how I came with my assessment.

The case in Bloomington, that you don't see charges as valid, even though the cops do, several people, and video backs it up, shows the protesters were dispersing, and the driver continued to drive into them.

So, yes, folks hung on to her car. That's what happens, quite often, when people are struck by slow moving vehicles.

You must not have read witness accounts of the incident.

I did, as I stated, when the incident happened, and in the Times, when the driver was arrested.

I also called IN DNR, to inquire about the incident that lead to the protest.

I also called the Munroe County prosecutors office, about the near lynching incident that lead to the protests.

 

The woman on the hood of the car had reportedly "threw herself on the hood of the a car" https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/protesters-gather-in-bloomington-for-second-straight-night/531-01fb2e7f-7f21-4423-a8b2-1f5beff0ec66 .   And the video appears to show a man running along side the car and trying to climb onto it.  These weren't innocent bystanders, what other purpose was there to their actions other than to antagonize people using a road that is legally open to traffic?

From the video the crowd had already dispersed, what remained was small group of individuals remaining in the street rather than moving to the sidewalks which appears to have been easily doable.  They appeared to still be in the road for the main purpose of obstructing it and antagonizing bystanders in cars.  If somebody blocks your legal route of travel, then jumps on your hood, what would you call that?  

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52 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

You see, when I say may empathy goes towards the protesters, I don't just mean typing words of support on online threads.

I make phone calls.

In the IN case, my phone calls, which were very polite, and taken from a public safety viewpoint as I live in a neighboring state, and have hiked the Hoosier National Forest and IN state parks, have gone unanswered.

Yep.

If you deliberately drive into a crowd of peaceful protesters, who are leaving an area, and try to tell you that, well, you get NO sympathy from me.

This woman wasn't "ambushed" or "menaced" as you have erroneously suggested.

 

Your reference to empathy for the protesters was in the context of protesters vs people who've been shot by protesters, I'm not sure how making phone calls is supposed to play into that.  You referred to your empathy for those who've been shot as being based on "real cases of motorists being shot", I'm still not clear what you meant by that.

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1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

The woman on the hood of the car had reportedly "threw herself on the hood of the a car" https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/protesters-gather-in-bloomington-for-second-straight-night/531-01fb2e7f-7f21-4423-a8b2-1f5beff0ec66 .   And the video appears to show a man running along side the car and trying to climb onto it.  These weren't innocent bystanders, what other purpose was there to their actions other than to antagonize people using a road that is legally open to traffic?

From the video the crowd had already dispersed, what remained was small group of individuals remaining in the street rather than moving to the sidewalks which appears to have been easily doable.  They appeared to still be in the road for the main purpose of obstructing it and antagonizing bystanders in cars.  If somebody blocks your legal route of travel, then jumps on your hood, what would you call that?  

Sure. 

However you want to see it.

Did you read the NY Times piece?

It contradicts your statements. That is why I ask.

But, you are welcome to see what you want.

 

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1 hour ago, MunoRN said:

The woman on the hood of the car had reportedly "threw herself on the hood of the a car" https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/protesters-gather-in-bloomington-for-second-straight-night/531-01fb2e7f-7f21-4423-a8b2-1f5beff0ec66 .   And the video appears to show a man running along side the car and trying to climb onto it.  These weren't innocent bystanders, what other purpose was there to their actions other than to antagonize people using a road that is legally open to traffic?

From the video the crowd had already dispersed, what remained was small group of individuals remaining in the street rather than moving to the sidewalks which appears to have been easily doable.  They appeared to still be in the road for the main purpose of obstructing it and antagonizing bystanders in cars.  If somebody blocks your legal route of travel, then jumps on your hood, what would you call that?  

I have already explained this to you.

 

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23 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

[...]

However  you want to see it.

Did you read the NY Times piece?

[...]

Did you watch the video?

Edited by chare

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5 hours ago, chare said:

Did you watch the video?

Did you read the Times piece?

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5 hours ago, chare said:

Did you watch the video?

It seems the cops didn't believe driver was "ambushed," as they arrested her.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Did you read the Times piece?

I read an NY Times article.  Whether it was the article you referred to I don't know, as you opted not to include the headline of the article.  I also read the three articles Muno posted, as well as others. 

20 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

It seems the cops didn't believe driver was "ambushed," as they arrested her.

The lady that was "struck" by the vehicle and ended up on the hood stepped in front of the car and placed her hands on the hood, after the vehicle had stopped, in what appeared an attempt to prevent the car from leaving.  After the car started moving, the lady took several steps back before jumping on the hood, and could just as easily moved from in front of the vehicle.  As the car started to move another protester, possibly the one that grabbed her door and later jumped on the car as well, attempted to prevent the car from leaving by attempting to block the car with his bicycle.  

As you didn't answer my question, I will ask again, did you watch the video? 

Bloomington police search for the driver, car suspected of injuring two protesters

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17 minutes ago, chare said:

I read an NY Times article.  Whether it was the article you referred to I don't know, as you opted not to include the headline of the article.  I also read the three articles Muno posted, as well as others. 

The lady that was "struck" by the vehicle and ended up on the hood stepped in front of the car and placed her hands on the hood, after the vehicle had stopped, in what appeared an attempt to prevent the car from leaving.  After the car started moving, the lady took several steps back before jumping on the hood, and could just as easily moved from in front of the vehicle.  As the car started to move another protester, possibly the one that grabbed her door and later jumped on the car as well, attempted to prevent the car from leaving by attempting to block the car with his bicycle.  

As you didn't answer my question, I will ask again, did you watch the video? 

Bloomington police search for the driver, car suspected of injuring two protesters

No.  I did not watch it.

I read the articles that I mentioned. The Times piece went over in detail, the actions of protesters and the driver.

And of course, the police opted to arrest the driver.

 

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6 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

No.  I did not watch it.

I read the articles that I mentioned. The Times piece went over in detail, the actions of protesters and the driver.

[...]

Is this the NY Times article you're referring to?

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The driver of a red Toyota first stopped, then unexpectedly accelerated into a crowd of dispersing demonstrators in Bloomington, Ind., on Monday night, injuring two of them in the latest of a disturbing rash of vehicular attacks targeting protesters.

Drivers Are Hitting Protesters as Memes of Car Attacks Spread

If so, this is far from an accurate description of events.

 

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3 hours ago, chare said:

Is this the NY Times article you're referring to?

If so, this is far from an accurate description of events.

 

Really?

So why do you think the police arrested the driver?

It's not exactly like police around the nation are sympathetic to BLM protesters.

So why would they charge a driver, who was being attacked?

Curious as to your thoughts on that.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Really?

So why do you think the police arrested the driver?

It's not exactly like police around the nation are sympathetic to BLM protesters.

So why would they charge a driver, who was being attacked?

[...]

I never said that the driver had been “attacked,” I stated that the protester stepped in front of a stopped car, after the passenger had exited to remove an object in the road, and placed her hands on the hood in an apparent effort to prevent it from leaving.  And, after the driver started to pull forward another protester attempted to block her progress by attempting to place his bicycle in front of her car.  These are the two protesters referenced in the charges against the driver.  If video is available of the vehicle being driven into a crowd of protesters, as has been suggested, I have been unable to find it.

Technically the driver has been arrested, not charged.  What formal charges will be referred by the prosecuting attorney, reportedly to occur later this week or early next week, remain to be seen.

10 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

[...]

I read the articles that I mentioned. The Times piece went over in detail, the actions of protesters and the driver.

[...]

Which you have yet to identify. As I mentioned in another thread, I generally read all linked and referenced articles if I am following the thread.  I am aware of your stated inability to post links and recall that at one time you would post the headline of the article and the site on which you found it, making it easy to find if we were interested.  However, you now do this infrequently.

As you seem unwilling to read or acknowledge sources other than your own, I think it time to leave this discussion.


Strikes colors and withdraws from field of battle.

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