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I am a very old, fat guy. I have always thought of myself as fat. I was the first one to reach 100 lbs in the fourth grade. My mother was a very fat woman. My father was a wisp of a man. He died at 45 years old, and my mother lived until she was 90 years old. Have I suffered because I am fat? You better believe it! However, I will say this. When I graduated from high school I was 184 lbs. I thought I was fat. When I was inducted into the military it was never an issue, even though the other 54% were rejected that month for various reasons including health. So I was not really fat, even by today's BMI standards. I was discharged at 215 lbs, now that was overweight. I went back into the military Nurse Corps some seven years later. I was 234 lbs and got down to 200 lbs and a 34 inch waist a year later. Again this whole time I thought of myself as fat. Over the next 16 years I gained on average 10 lbs a year and became 365 lbs in 1992. That was my heaviest. I am now 340 lbs and have maintained it for some 12 years. My issue is that if you are of normal weight now, do not let it go. Be glad and think of it as a gift that must be maintained and cared for. Weight gain is insidious, and will happen consistently if you do not watch it relentlessly. My three sons are horrified about my weight, and have not gained significantly over the years. My daughter went my route, and is struggling with her weight constantly.

I had tried to loose weight several time over the years and went on Weight Watchers, Nutri System, TOPS, and even the all liquid, doctor monitored, Medifast diet. I had lost about 50 lbs each time, and just could not maintain it. Only to gain it back again in less than a year. Then I read an extensive article in Time Magazine. It had shown that no matter what system was used to loose weight only about 3% kept it off for more than five years. That's when I stopped trying. Since then I have been told to loose 100 lbs for a hip replacement to be preformed. I looked into the Bariatric surgery and found that consistently people who had it done were happy with it for 7 years. but that most had regained the weight back in for those who had it over 11 years ago or more.

I personally worked with 4 nurses who had it done, and three of the four had regained all the weight back by the time I knew them. My son went to medical school with the guy who is now in charge of this surgery in the local medical center. He hates me being so fat, and wants me to have it done. My daughter was 325 lbs when she had it done in 2004. I had advised against it, but she did it anyway. I must admit she was very determined, with gym visits and all. She went down to 147 lbs in less then 2 years. Now her last admitted weight was 247 lbs. Go figure!

When I saw a TV presentation investigating prejudice I was stunned to see that beyond gender, beyond race, weight was the worst prejudice. Now in the United States the latest figure on obesity is 72% for men and 64% for women. So how can these feelings of prejudice exist if most of the people in this country are overweight.

I have not figured that out, unless you begin to to realize that people are people all over the world, and most of them are insecure. Even the ones who appear to be very secure they are frequently feeling superior, to hide true feelings of inferiority. Even a narcissist is deeply troubled inside about the reality of his own superiority. He acts supremely superior, and truly believes he is, therefore his recidivism is almost 100% as he is unlikely to even seek psychological help, as he knows more then the psychologist ever will. I think this is an inherited state, but it is a difficult one to deal with. Although only 1% of the population have a true Narcissistic Personality Disorder there are so many people we meet every day who harbor these feelings and are searching for the faults of others to bolster their own feelings of insecurity.

In Nursing there was a an axiom that "Nurses eat their young." That is explained as the concept that many nurses are insecure in what they do, because they are constantly being chided by more experienced nurses about their own short comings and faults. So they are poised to to watch the new nurse to pounce on her, and make her feel inadequate. This bolsters their own pride and hopefully distracts any observations of their own dysfunction. This is a source of constant stress in Nursing. Stress makes us overeat, smoke, and do other unhealthy things.

So what to do about weight? Well Weight Watchers was shown consistently to be the best program for loosing weight. Will it work. Yes it will. Yet, if you are not truly dedicated you will gain it back consistently. What about pills and other drugs they are an over the counter and are part of the 150 billion dollar boondoggle being pulled over on the American people. Other prescription drugs for weight loss have been a miserable failure too. The "Phen Phen" fiasco back in the 90's cause hundreds to damage their heat valves, and some even died. One poor nurse I worked with took her aunts script for Alli. When she was racing around the ER with her white scrubs on when another nurse told her that she must be having her period, as she had stained her pants with the "blood." It wasn't blood it was diarrhea. The fat blocking drug had caused her to have a BM she was not even aware of. So try being in love with yourself, whatever you look like, that is a direct proclivity for overall health, both mental and physical. Is it healthy to be overweight? No! We all know diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and a host of other diseases are more prevalent in the obese. Yet here again, if you are to make it to 80 years old being a bit overweight gives you less mortality potential then if you are rail thin. Enjoy being YOU! You are your own best friend.

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This is a very good article and addresses a lot of the things I have felt over the years and now.

You might appreciate the magnet I have on my fridge that says, "I wish I was as thin as I was when I thought I was fat!"

Once upon a time, when I had metabolism, I stayed around 140-155 lbs (at 5'8"). Easy-peasy, no dieting; and gyms, jogging or pilates/yoga were barely a faint blip on the world's radar. (Of course there was Jack LaLane, and then Jane Fonda) I could eat 5 meals a day without any untoward results, and if by some chance I happened to gain a small amount of weight, I could get it off in about 2 weeks with very little effort.

These days, post Clinical Depression and The Menopause From Hell, I am 5'7 & 1/4 :bored: and 210 lbs. Periodically I can beat back about 15 lbs. but I doubt I will ever see 165 lbs again. At one time I would have been HORRIFIED to weigh 165, but now it is like a fantasy to daydream about.

The really good thing is that the meds from my doc (who is excellent dealing with his patient's depression) have me rocking along nicely, and I do appreciate feeling well for a change!

Being as how the only probable way for me to lose 50-60 lbs would be if I had some drastic illness, all things considered I am a happy camper as is.

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It is just that simple if you do not like yourself, than who will? Getting old means choosing what dreams come true, and which ones you leave by the wayside. Reality is an old horse you hate to look at, but she still takes you there.

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I have 'promised' my doc to start walking 3x/wk and aim toward shedding some adipose. I don't really LIKE being 210 lbs, because my joints complain. When knee and hip pain propels you out of bed in the morning, it does seem wise to do some things to help alleviate the cause. Can't do nothin' about my age, but I do not want to see my former physical flexibility cemented into a big, awkward and weak body, and it has already started to be that way, which does dismay me. Plus I do not want to have to start buying size 3x clothing. :no:

I used to walk a LOT, back when I was single and worked the 3-11 shift. Had the time and lived in a place where there were lots of public, wooded walking parks. Now I am married (25 yrs) and my hubby is out on short-term disability after shoulder surgery; shifts are now 12 hours and I do 2 days and 2 nights per week. "They' say that lack of sleep can contribute to obesity. And I don't feel safe these days hiking through the woods alone like I did 30 years ago.

So, BLAH! But I still have to find a way to enjoy walking again so I will keep it up.Because I KNOW it will make me feel better, even if it doesn't result in miraculous weight loss. I don't want to be one of those "I've fallen and I can't get up!" ladies.

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I am a very old, fat guy. I have always thought of myself as fat. I was the first one to reach 100 lbs in the fourth grade. My mother was a very fat woman. My father was a wisp of a man. He died at 45 years old, and my mother lived until she was 90 years old. Have I suffered because I am fat? You better believe it! However, I will say this. When I graduated from high school I was 184 lbs. I thought I was fat. When I was inducted into the military it was never an issue, even though the other 54% were rejected that month for various reasons including health. So I was not really fat, even by today's BMI standards. I was discharged at 215 lbs, now that was overweight. I went back into the military Nurse Corps some seven years later. I was 234 lbs and got down to 200 lbs and a 34 inch waist a year later. Again this whole time I thought of myself as fat. Over the next 16 years I gained on average 10 lbs a year and became 365 lbs in 1992. That was my heaviest. I am now 340 lbs and have maintained it for some 12 years. My issue is that if you are of normal weight now, do not let it go. Be glad and think of it as a gift that must be maintained and cared for. Weight gain is insidious, and will happen consistently if you do not watch it relentlessly. My three sons are horrified about my weight, and have not gained significantly over the years. My daughter went my route, and is struggling with her weight constantly.

I had tried to loose weight several time over the years and went on Weight Watchers, Nutri System, TOPS, and even the all liquid, doctor monitored, Medifast diet. I had lost about 50 lbs each time, and just could not maintain it. Only to gain it back again in less than a year. Then I read an extensive article in Time Magazine. It had shown that no matter what system was used to loose weight only about 3% kept it off for more than five years. That's when I stopped trying. Since then I have been told to loose 100 lbs for a hip replacement to be preformed. I looked into the Bariatric surgery and found that consistently people who had it done were happy with it for 7 years. but that most had regained the weight back in for those who had it over 11 years ago or more.

I personally worked with 4 nurses who had it done, and three of the four had regained all the weight back by the time I knew them. My son went to medical school with the guy who is now in charge of this surgery in the local medical center. He hates me being so fat, and wants me to have it done. My daughter was 325 lbs when she had it done in 2004. I had advised against it, but she did it anyway. I must admit she was very determined, with gym visits and all. She went down to 147 lbs in less then 2 years. Now her last admitted weight was 247 lbs. Go figure!

When I saw a TV presentation investigating prejudice I was stunned to see that beyond gender, beyond race, weight was the worst prejudice. Now in the United States the latest figure on obesity is 72% for men and 64% for women. So how can these feelings of prejudice exist if most of the people in this country are overweight.

I have not figured that out, unless you begin to to realize that people are people all over the world, and most of them are insecure. Even the ones who appear to be very secure they are frequently feeling superior, to hide true feelings of inferiority. Even a narcissist is deeply troubled inside about the reality of his own superiority. He acts supremely superior, and truly believes he is, therefore his recidivism is almost 100% as he is unlikely to even seek psychological help, as he knows more then the psychologist ever will. I think this is an inherited state, but it is a difficult one to deal with. Although only 1% of the population have a true Narcissistic Personality Disorder there are so many people we meet every day who harbor these feelings and are searching for the faults of others to bolster their own feelings of insecurity.

In Nursing there was a an axiom that "Nurses eat their young." That is explained as the concept that many nurses are insecure in what they do, because they are constantly being chided by more experienced nurses about their own short comings and faults. So they are poised to to watch the new nurse to pounce on her, and make her feel inadequate. This bolsters their own pride and hopefully distracts any observations of their own dysfunction. This is a source of constant stress in Nursing. Stress makes us overeat, smoke, and do other unhealthy things.

So what to do about weight? Well Weight Watchers was shown consistently to be the best program for loosing weight. Will it work. Yes it will. Yet, if you are not truly dedicated you will gain it back consistently. What about pills and other drugs they are an over the counter and are part of the 150 billion dollar boondoggle being pulled over on the American people. Other prescription drugs for weight loss have been a miserable failure too. The "Phen Phen" fiasco back in the 90's cause hundreds to damage their heat valves, and some even died. One poor nurse I worked with took her aunts script for Alli. When she was racing around the ER with her white scrubs on when another nurse told her that she must be having her period, as she had stained her pants with the "blood." It wasn't blood it was diarrhea. The fat blocking drug had caused her to have a BM she was not even aware of. So try being in love with yourself, whatever you look like, that is a direct proclivity for overall health, both mental and physical. Is it healthy to be overweight? No! We all know diabetes, heart disease, stroke, and a host of other diseases are more prevalent in the obese. Yet here again, if you are to make it to 80 years old being a bit overweight gives you less mortality potential then if you are rail thin. Enjoy being YOU! You are your own best friend.

A little about me before I respond further. I started out at a BMI of 41.9 and with a lap band I got down to a 17.5 BMI. That was in 06 before we knew what a horror lap bands would turn out to be. When I got to the point that I could not eat food with a band and started that appearance of a crack whore due to being so thin, I revised to a sleeve. For me, for my population, if we *can* eat, we *do* eat. I was not willing to remove the band and regain all that lard so I revised to a sleeve (below goal) to keep me from being big as a house again. That was in 6/08. Today I am a bariatric nurse, a US nurse living and working in Mexico, yes....... medical tourism but this is not like the Tijuana danger zone where it is a race to see who can kill the most people. I work for the best of the best in a safe city. I'm just heading off the uninformed opinions of, "Ewwwww, you went to Mexico? Are you still alive?" Uh, yes. Nine years and counting. Still a normal BMI as well.

On to some comments....

WW may indeed have good results but I am not a fan. Com'on...WW depends on repeat business. It's nothing but a fad diet to ME. We all need to find a healthy eating lifestyle that helps us to achieve our goals and still stay satisfied. We do not need WW, Jennie Craig, TOPS, or any of the other nonsense. We need to learn about food, food triggers, and how to avoid them. Most people need to get down and dirty honest with themselves.

I can't count how many patients are in utter denial. They SWEAR they eat like a bird but can't seem to get below a 60BMI. Seriously? It takes a LOT of calories to maintain a 60BMI body. I recall one patient who was a 60BMI and she swore up and down the ONLY food she ate on a daily basis was 1/4 of a skinless, boneless chicken breast. She decided, you see, that she was not eating enough thus she was in starvation mode.

Facepalm.....

Turns out she also owned a bakery. Hmm...

She wanted a lap band. We don't do lap bands, they are dangerous and ineffective long term. If we place a band we *know* a few years down the road we will get them back for a revision so it's just not ethical to place a band. But I still asked her, if she was not eating enough how would restricting her intake even more help her to lose weight?

On some level these people know the truth they just can't bring themselves to admit it. That's okay!! Not everyone is ready to change their eating habits or have weight loss surgery (wls). You have to be ready or it isn't going to work.

Others swear their metabolism is dead and that is why when they eat an entire cake in 2 days they gain. ?? It is their metabolism and not the cake.

Underactive thyroid.... Don't think so. The cake still played a role and with meds and normal labs, they can lose just like everyone else.

In my experience nurses are THE biggest offenders of the syndrome, "I don't have time for myself, I put everyone else in my life ahead of me including my patients." Bleh. Seriously, how much more time does it take to eat a cheese stick instead of a cheese cake?

Obesity is a disease, nobody WANTS to be fat and if we could just diet and exercise, we would. BTDT. There is no cure for obesity but we do have excellent treatments and the best medical intervention today (statistically speaking) is surgery. Pills are an utter failure.

~~Then I read an extensive article in Time Magazine. It had shown that no matter what system was used to loose weight only about 3% kept it off for more than five years.~~

Come now, you are exaggerating! It's actually 4%. ;o) And that is assuming they can get it off at all but yes, stats show that once you hit a 30BMI you have about a 4% chance of losing to a normal BMI and maintaining that for 5 years. By the time you are a 30 BMI (obese) there are metabolic changes and it is just almost impossible to lose and maintain. Top off those metabolic changes with poor habits and it just plain does not work.

~~Since then I have been told to loose 100 lbs for a hip replacement to be preformed.~~

Yep yep yep, those joint replacements are designed for a normal BMI person.

~~ I looked into the Bariatric surgery and found that consistently people who had it done were happy with it for 7 years. but that most had regained the weight back in for those who had it over 11 years ago or more.~~

That is not necessarily true. Much depends on the surgery type. Bands and bypass that is probably very true. Not so with sleeves and DS. Bypass (RNY) used to be the gold standard merely because they didn't have many options. Medical science rocks and procedures have been improved drastically. Today the vertical sleeve gastrectomy is the #1 surgery type performed. Far less risk than bypass and the same weight loss and less regain to boot. But, that also depends on starting BMI. For higher BMI folks DS is the surgery type of choice. I think if you look up 12 year stats (1, 2, 5, 10, and 12 year stats are easily googled) you will find that many do very well beyond 11 years.

But, many do not. Many look at wls as a diet and when they get to goal they go back to eating garbage. This is a lifestyle change. I totally overhauled my food lifestyle but I'll tell you, without my sleeve even with good foods and my current lifestyle I would be big as a house again because if I *can* eat, I *do* eat. I need the restriction, I need something to make me stop eating. With a stomach the size of a small banana I have no options to overeat. But, if I eat chocolate all day long instead of protein sure, I would regain. Yet when I eat protein there is no room for chocolate.

~~I personally worked with 4 nurses who had it done, and three of the four had regained all the weight back by the time I knew them~~

I believe you. I believe you are telling the truth. However, I have worked with hundreds of people and thousands on line, most have kept the majority of it off. Oh! There is a 3 year rebound/regain of about 10% that is pretty standard for folks. I didn't have that regain until 7 years post op when I was on a very high dose of Prednisone. I gained 20#. The only reason I didn't eat my right arm is because my face was already full of cake and pie. I was sooooooooo hungry while taking that crap. I do not blame myself for the 20# but I do blame myself for not taking it off again, it's actually not a big deal with my sleeve. I don't call a 10% regain failure, I still call it success. If someone loses 100# and regains 10#, I'm not going to knock them for that.

~~My daughter was 325 lbs when she had it done in 2004. I had advised against it, but she did it anyway. I must admit she was very determined, with gym visits and all. She went down to 147 lbs in less then 2 years. Now her last admitted weight was 247 lbs. Go figure!~~

Yep, this isn't a diet. It is indeed a lifestyle change. Did she have gastric bypass by any chance? I do not like that surgery type AT ALL. There is a small population that needs it, that is all they can do. But overall I believe the anatomy of the surgery type sets them up for failure a few years down the road. Regardless of surgery type if someone goes back to old eating habits they *will* regain.

~~What about pills and other drugs they are an over the counter and are part of the 150 billion dollar boondoggle being pulled over on the American people.~~

In the history of the US we have had two massive waves of obesity. The first was in the 50s when processed foods and McDonalds was introduced to the American public and the 2nd was in the 70s when nutritionists told people we eat too much dietary fat. We need a high carb/low fat diet and they are STILL pushing that line of nonsense. WE DID NOT GET FAT FROM DIETARY FAT! We got fat from white carbs. Not all carbs, white carbs. Flour, sugar, rice, pasta, and potatoes. We did not get fat from a juicy steak and a salad with full fat dressing, we got fat from the dinner rolls, pasta, potatoes, rice, cake, pie, cookies, candy, candy bars, Doritos, Cheetos, chips, and the list is endless.

Todays science shows we actually need a full fat/low carb diet to do well. What happens when the dietician tells you to give your diabetic patient ooodles of carbs? You increase their insulin. What happen when you increase insulin injections OR produce your own insulin? That insulin turns those carbs into body fat. When happens when you decrease your diabetic patient's carb intake? You need to give less insulin on that insulin scale.

You know, the bottom line for those that want to lose weight is to totally, 100% cut out WHITE carbs. Not all of them, just the white ones. Then there are some of us that will still gorge on the good foods and still be fat thus, my sleeve. It works for me.

~~Yet here again, if you are to make it to 80 years old being a bit overweight gives you less mortality potential then if you are rail thin. Enjoy being YOU! You are your own best friend.~~

But but but.... people are no longer just a bit overweight, they are FAT! Dangerously fat. This is the first generation, today, that is not expected to outlive their parents.

Now, that is frightening!

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My weight history:

I was the smallest of a set of twins    9weighing pounds 11 ounces) born before ultrasound was invented. My parents didn't name me because they thought I was not going to survive, so my grandmother took over my care and named me. 

Notably, I was thin most of my life. I married a mentally ill man who I had no idea was mentally ill at the time. I mistakenly thought that if you were married to a church going member, your marriage would be a safe and harmonious one. How wrong I was!

Our children and I were not allowed to eat ice-cream, although he would eat chocolate bars in front of the girls. They would very politely ask him for a taste, but he told them it wasn't any good for them. He also told us that ice cream was too sweet for us.

After 7 very long years, I finally received a breakthrough and we separated. I was so damaged by that time, I had no desire to ever enter into another relationship. After I got custody of our children, I called us "The Three Musketeers." 

Anyway, since we were not allowed to have ice cream, during much of  those 7 years, the first thing I did was buy some the day we separated. I eventually had a half gallon of each of the five different flavors in my freezer, and I ate ice cream any time I wanted some. After a couple years of living that way, I gained way too much weight, and I didn't like the way I looked, so I joined Weight Watchers. I lost 145 pounds in a year, but I had gotten too thin. In fact, my neighbor thought that someone else had moved into my place. The leader at Weight Watchers told me that I should be leading the class, instead of her. I kept most of the weight off over several years. 

Then I moved to another state after my girls went to college, and eventually married. I went to school and eventually became a nurse, earning a perfect attendance award. After that, I decided to get all the minor surgeries I needed so I could continue being an employee with an excellent attendance record. So after I had the surgeries, I began actively looking for work by making a daily job out of it. During that time, I was taking half the dosage of what my nursing Drug Book was recommending of the drug Niacin which I purchased at local drug store. 

After a couple of weeks, I began itching all over, and my breathing wasn't right, so I eventually went to the local ER, was examined, and was told I had an asthma attack. I was also told to stop taking the niacin, because I had an adverse reaction to it. Well, The itching eventually subsided, but the asthma increased so much that I had an attack of status asthmaticus one day. and went into respiratory failure. It was then I became a patient on a ventilator in the ICU. As time progressed, I got more and more ill, with life threatening attacks on my already weakened body, and never really was able to work as a nurse.

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3 minutes ago, FranEMTnurse said:

My weight history:

I was the smallest of a set of twins    9weighing pounds 11 ounces) born before ultrasound was invented. My parents didn't name me because they thought I was not going to survive, so my grandmother took over my care and named me. 

Notably, I was thin most of my life. I married a mentally ill man who I had no idea was mentally ill at the time. I mistakenly thought that if you were married to a church going member, your marriage would be a safe and harmonious one. How wrong I was!

Our children and I were not allowed to eat ice-cream, although he would eat chocolate bars in front of the girls. They would very politely ask him for a taste, but he told them it wasn't any good for them. He also told us that ice cream was too sweet for us.

After 7 very long years, I finally received a breakthrough and we separated. I was so damaged by that time, I had no desire to ever enter into another relationship. After I got custody of our children, I called us "The Three Musketeers." 

Anyway, since we were not allowed to have ice cream, during much of  those 7 years, the first thing I did was buy some the day we separated. I eventually had a half gallon of each of the five different flavors in my freezer, and I ate ice cream any time I wanted some. After a couple years of living that way, I gained way too much weight, and I didn't like the way I looked, so I joined Weight Watchers. I lost 145 pounds in a year, but I had gotten too thin. In fact, my neighbor thought that someone else had moved into my place. The leader at Weight Watchers told me that I should be leading the class, instead of her. I kept most of the weight off over several years. 

Then I moved to another state after my girls went to college, and eventually married. I went to school and eventually became a nurse, earning a perfect attendance award. After that, I decided to get all the minor surgeries I needed so I could continue being an employee with an excellent attendance record. So after I had the surgeries, I began actively looking for work by making a daily job out of it. During that time, I was taking half the dosage of what my nursing Drug Book was recommending of the drug Niacin which I purchased at local drug store. 

After a couple of weeks, I began itching all over, and my breathing wasn't right, so I eventually went to the local ER, was examined, and was told I had an asthma attack. I was also told to stop taking the niacin, because I had an adverse reaction to it. Well, The itching eventually subsided, but the asthma increased so much that I had an attack of status asthmaticus one day. and went into respiratory failure. It was then I became a patient on a ventilator in the ICU. As time progressed,

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(I got more and more ill, with life threatening attacks on my already weakened body, and never really was able to work as a nurse.) During my very lengthy hospitalization, I was given massive doses of Solu-Medrol to reverse the effects of the illness, and I got so weak, I struggled to breathe and also  got "Drop Foot." I kept the weight on after that, and was not able to lose most of it. I now wear a brace on my foot, and have caregivers come in to help me manage duties here at home.

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1 hour ago, FranEMTnurse said:

(I got more and more ill, with life threatening attacks on my already weakened body, and never really was able to work as a nurse.) During my very lengthy hospitalization, I was given massive doses of Solu-Medrol to reverse the effects of the illness, and I got so weak, I struggled to breathe and also  got "Drop Foot." I kept the weight on after that, and was not able to lose most of it. I now wear a brace on my foot, and have caregivers come in to help me manage duties here at home, but My Cardiologist gave me glowing reports on my A1C result telling my level is now considered pre diabetic, and my PCP has been telling me for over a year now that I should frame my blood work results. The only thing I did different, was to completely eliminate white food products with the exception of potatoes, and eat whole grains. I have even managed to lose 12 pounds, and that makes me happy.😊

 

 

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First of all I think it's largely an exaggeration that nurses eat their young and we're "constantly bombarded" and then turn around and do it to others.  Most of us are good decent hardworking nurses that don't eat their young.

Secondly, my favorite weight loss story is that of of a man that lost 265 lbs. after weight loss surgery (twice I believe) and has kept it off over a decade and is now a vegan and keeps it off eating normally (his stomach he says is now stretched out again).  

Thanks for sharing your story.  

 

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