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Obama asks EPA to back off draft ozone standard

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These EPA regulations were put in place to prevent thousands of premature deaths and health problems.

I think the decision is based on Obama's desire to remove restraints on corporate profit. He is using the jobs crisis as a pretext.

According to the linked LA Times story in the OP, President Obama said, "I have continued to underscore the importance of reducing regulatory burdens and regulatory uncertainty, particularly as our economy continues to recover". It's clear that his largest considerations are the profit interests of the large energy corporations.

The claim that scrapping this regulation for jobs is a fraud. Corporations are setting on unspeakable amounts of wealth and yet they refuse to hire (in fact profits are back at pre-2008 levels). The Obama administration have flatly rejected any serious measures to alleviate the jobs crisis - instead, it is using it as an opportunity to intensify the attack on the working class through austerity measures (cuts in discretionary spending, education, Medicare/Medicaid . . . so on and so forth).

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Probably not. I'm pretty stable and steadfast. If that happens it will be spontaneously brilliant and amazing and not forced. Admittedly those moments are few and far between, especially from your point of view. :lol2:

Hey, at least we're consistent :yeah:........which is more than can be said for Obama, who essentially goes whichever way the wind is blowing at a given moment in time.

Here's the weird thing. I actually like the guy. Independently wealthy or not, he's real---he's got two kids he worries about, he likes to drink beer and play pick-up basketball with his buddies, he listens to rock 'n' roll, he's trying to quit smoking and having a helluva time of it. If likability were an indicator of Presidential competence, Obama would rank right up there with Ronald Reagan in my book. Unfortunately, however, being a great guy and having the cojones necessary to be the leader of the Free World don't always go hand in hand, and Obama is, IMHO, sorely lacking in that department.

I'd respect the man a lot more if he would simply take a stand and stick to it......even if I disagree with it. I admire those who stick to their guns and let the crap fall where it may, even if it costs them politically or personally.....and even if I think their position is wrong. As much as I loathed George W. Bush as President, I have to respect him for his consistency---that man never wavered from the course he set, never equivocated, never said he was against something before he was for it. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but from where this country stands now after 2 1/2 years of flip-flopping, wishy-washy "leadership" (which is an oxymoron), I've got to admit I almost miss him :sofahider

Anyway, Tweety is right, we are never going to agree or change each other's minds; but it's still fun to debate because in the middle of all the smoke and fire, we do find tiny patches of common ground once in a while.....and in the meantime, the opportunity to learn is always there, for all of us. :)

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I don't think he's been wishy washy or even flipfloppy on the whole, but like any President he breaks campaign promises. I like the fact that he's willing to compromise and go to the middle not caring what the radical left thinks. However, the radical right is steadfast in staying to the far right and not meeting him in the middle and giving him anything in return and he's looking foolish and more and more Republican every day, especially with this broken promise.

The Republicans want the White House so badly and are afraid of any criticism from the far right/Tea Party, they will stay unbending and uncompromising. It's so bad his job program is already being criticized and it isn't even out yet. Some aren't even going to attend his announcement and listen to it. Some are bickering over when he's going to give it. Perry has already pronounced it a failure.

I've changed the subject but I'm angry at Obama for breaking his promise and giving in to the right and even more angry at the right for not even acknowledging and knowing they won't compromise in return.

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Okay.......I'm interested in hearing what positions you think the "far right"/Tea Party should compromise on. Seriously. :)

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I don't think he's been wishy washy or even flipfloppy on the whole, but like any President he breaks campaign promises. QUOTE]

Bingo.....about the broken campaign promises. Do Presidential candidate forget that there are three, count em' three branches of the government? Do they forget that no one branch can do anything without some cooperation from the other two?

I guess they do forget, and that includes all of them. Presidential candidates should never make promises....it makes them look like fools....instead, they should call it a wish, a desire, a plan, a goal....but never a promise.

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“Many MoveOn members are wondering today how they can ever work for President Obama's reelection, or make the case for him to their neighbors, when he does something like this, after extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich, and giving in to tea party demands on the debt deal,” MoveOn’s executive director, Justin Ruben said in a statement. “This is a decision we'd expect from George W. Bush.”

Read more: Obama ozone decision blindsides enviros - and his own EPA - Robin Bravender - POLITICO.com

I know [Obama] thinks all these people voted for him and they have nowhere to go in 2012 because the Republicans are worse,” said Nader, speaking during yet another day of White House protests against a proposed tar-sands-oil pipeline from Canada. “But they can stay home.

They can closet their enthusiasm. They can end their contributions to him. And that’s not what he needs to be reelected.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62602.html#ixzz1Wz5gCSEx

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Rather than remove US pollution controls, we need a President who will pressure China and other nations to adopt similar restrictions. Does anyone else like seafood? I love it. Guess where all of China's industrial waste flows.

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Rather than remove US pollution controls, we need a President who will pressure China and other nations to adopt similar restrictions. Does anyone else like seafood? I love it. Guess where all of China's industrial waste flows.

Agree. China is a major polluter and as their economy grows and the will only get worse, since their government doesn't allow for much discussion on policy or regulation, they just do what they want and allow business to do what they want in the desire to make money.

However, other countries that have more stringent standards than America are asking the same of us. We can be a leader instead of "pot meet the kettle" country.

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