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You are reading page 7 of Mueller Hearing. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

35 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

Because he didn't say exonerate, Trump did. Mueller said exculpate.

The links to the actual videos are on the first page. Watch it again. It's not an impression if it was said out of their own mouth and the whole world saw it. You can't get an impression of words not spoken by claiming they said something they didn't actually say, hence me pointing out Trump said exonerate and Mueller said exculpate. I made a whole point of that in the post you quoted and you still went with the Mueller said exonerate bait and switch lie.

As for what you think about the Republicans "grilling" Mueller, OK.

I found it pathetic, that Republicans repeatedly tried to tear down a decorated Vietnam war hero, and fellow Republican, in order to prop up a racist criminal.

And given that the WaPo fact-checked, several lies told by Republicans, during that so-called "grilling," you can only conclude, it was all done for show, for the rabid base.

 

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1 minute ago, Lil Nel said:

I found it pathetic, that Republicans repeatedly tried to tear down a decorated Vietnam war hero, and fellow Republican, in order to prop up a racist criminal.

And given that the WaPo fact-checked, several lies told by Republicans, during that so-called "grilling," you can only conclude, it was all done for show, for the rabid base.

 

Everything is done for show. In Trump's post-presser all he did was talk as though he were on a movie set. It's a game show to him but it's real lives he's playing with.

 

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7 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:

Everything is done for show. In Trump's post-presser all he did was talk as though he were on a movie set. It's a game show to him but it's real lives he's playing with.

 

Yes.

And I heard him reference himself, in the third-person, as he is so fond of doing, when complementing himself.

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44 minutes ago, MoondoggieRN said:

My lunch was missing from the break room cafeteria the other day.  I think you stole it.

i don’t have evidence you did.  But half our coworkers don’t like you, and I go around telling everyone I can’t say you didn’t do it.  Of course, that gives the ones who don’t like more reason to want you gone.

Thats what Mueller has done with his report.

Except Mueller provided not only evidence of multiple instances of obstruction, but provided extensive reviews of applicable precedent and case law related to these instances, do you have any substantive rebuttals to his examples of obstruction or is that you would rather pretend the report didn't point these out? 

 

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1 hour ago, Spidey's mom said:

Russian interference . . . of course that happens and did happen.  I've heard this subject talked about since the beginning of this investigation and actually beforehand with Obama and Putin in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

But did it get into the voting machine and magically change the way someone voted?  No. 

 

 

 

 

 

How are you confident that they did not or cannot impact the numbers? 

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37 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

Except Mueller provided not only evidence of multiple instances of obstruction, but provided extensive reviews of applicable precedent and case law related to these instances, do you have any substantive rebuttals to his examples of obstruction or is that you would rather pretend the report didn't point these out? 

 

Yep been through this before.  And another poster says no evidence has been provided that Mueller isn’t in a position to exonerate Trump.

You’ve worn me down.  I’ve lost interest in going around in circles.  Essentially, the same circles that everyone has been going around since May.

So, going ahead, what should happen now?  One person is for impeachment.  As far as I know, no one else has agreed or disagreed with that.

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26 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

How are you confident that they did not or cannot impact the numbers? 

I guess that would have been a good question for Mueller to answer yesterday, wouldn’t it have?

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Just now, MoondoggieRN said:

I guess that would have been a good question for Mueller to answer yesterday, wouldn’t it have?

Why do you suppose that our representatives didn't ask that and why was the election protections legislation not passed?

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Defining Russian Election Interference

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Interference Actions:
Infrastructure Exploitation: An action—including 
reconnaissance and collection efforts—that gathers 
or distorts data or functionality of information tech-
nology (IT) systems or networks.


Vote Manipulation: An action that alters vote tal-
lies, vote input, vote transmission, or other modes of 
counting and transmitting the voters’ true choices. 
This does not include actions intended simply to 
communicate a false result or otherwise cast doubt 
on the reliability of the vote.


Strategic Publication: The public release of data that 
is obtained illicitly, typically through Infrastructure 
Exploitation, with the intent to embarrass, expose, 
or otherwise cast the subject in a negative light.

False-Front Engagement: The fabrication of a false 
public identity by a person or group that subse-
quently takes actions to communicate, provoke, or-
ganize, or otherwise interact with others using the 
false identity.

Sentiment Amplification: An action that increases 
the dissemination and prominence of a specific 
viewpoint. Sentiment Amplification can be con-
ducted overtly, in which case the actor is clearly 
identifiable and there is no question of proper at-
tribution. Covert Sentiment Amplification intention-
ally obscures the actor either by taking the form of 
False-Front Engagement or appearing to minimize 
the role of any actor behind the action.
Fabricated Content: The propagation of written or 
broadcasted information that is false in nature or 
embellishes the truth. This may include actions that 
* The definitions proposed in this publication reflect the views intentionally miscommunicate the number of votes for a candidate or an election result, or other false 
and misleading statements.

Has it been clearly stated that there were no shenanigans with vote totals?

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Securing American Elections From Foreign Interference

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This foreign interference in the presidential election exposed cracks in the security of America’s electoral system, the most fundamental part of our democracy. News reports revealed that hackers working on behalf of the Russian government targeted state and local voter registration databases and managed to access elections systems in as many as 39 states. The attack shows that our current election systems are susceptible to foreign interference, and will only become more vulnerable as hacking methods are refined.

We know that our electoral processes are old, vulnerable and targeted but we assume that the elections are free and fair while Congress refuses to pass national remedies to address the weaknesses. 

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17 hours ago, MoondoggieRN said:

So, going ahead, what should happen now?  One person is for impeachment.  As far as I know, no one else has agreed or disagreed with that.

Anyone?  Anyone?  

We’ve had posts on Jerry Falwell, Trump not attending NAACP, and the tired “how can anyone support Trump?” post.

No one cares to tackle this question?

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54 minutes ago, MoondoggieRN said:

Anyone?  Anyone?  

We’ve had posts on Jerry Falwell, Trump not attending NAACP, and the tired “how can anyone support Trump?” post.

No one cares to tackle this question?

I personally don't have much of an opinion myself as I don't feel qualified,  but USA Today and other media has tackled the question.

I myself, like a lot of people, want it to go away and concentrate on getting him out of office the in 2020

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/07/25/mueller-testimony-democrats-republicans-trump-what-next/1821272001/

https://www.wired.com/story/robert-mueller-congress-testimony-report/

Edited by Tweety

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