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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Yeah is interesting that extremists shows like Maddow doesn't allow extremists from the other side.  But you don't see people like Maddow on Hannity either.  They want their narrative to remain intact and not lose viewers.  It's about the ratings and money that goes with it.  

I haven’t seen a whole lot of Hannity in the recent years, but liberal politicians and others representing that point of view were on OReilly and are still on other Fox programs all the time.

Hiw do you know they aren’t on Hannity?  Do you watch?

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There is a video imbedded in this story that made me go, huh?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2019/06/09/laura-ingraham-trump-d-day-fox-news-interview-fake-news-sot-rs-vpx.cnn

Laura Ingram proclaims that it is fake news that the D-Day ceremonies were delayed so that Trump could do her interview, which is probably true. But then Trump himself says they delayed the ceremony so that he could do the interview. So is she calling him a liar? A demented person? Or both?

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On 5/31/2019 at 11:20 AM, SC_RNDude said:

I haven’t seen a whole lot of Hannity in the recent years, but liberal politicians and others representing that point of view were on OReilly and are still on other Fox programs all the time.

Hiw do you know they aren’t on Hannity?  Do you watch?

I saw Hannity himself say that Maddow refuses to appear on his show. Of course, we have no way of knowing if they even actually invited her, or if there were any preconditions on either side that weren't agreed to. 

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54 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

I saw Hannity himself say that Maddow refuses to appear on his show. Of course, we have no way of knowing if they even actually invited her, or if there were any preconditions on either side that weren't agreed to. 

I wonder why any serious political person would appear on Hannity's program? Hannity isn't a journalist.  He isn't a skilled interviewer.  He is a right wing radio personality who found celebrity on Fox. He IS a loyal Trump sychophant who will lie on television to promote Trump. He IS a faithful birther and conspiracy whisperer. 

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39 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I wonder why any serious political person would appear on Hannity's program? Hannity isn't a journalist.  He isn't a skilled interviewer.  He is a right wing radio personality who found celebrity on Fox. He IS a loyal Trump sychophant who will lie on television to promote Trump. He IS a faithful birther and conspiracy whisperer. 

I think those are precisely the reasons that Maddow would refuse to go on his show.  She can't stand people like him.  She would have to bite her tongue and sit on her hands to stop from slapping his smug face.  

But really both of those shows have an agenda.  One right and one left, is it really fair to criticize they have guests that support their point of view?  

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

I think those are precisely the reasons that Maddow would refuse to go on his show.  She can't stand people like him.  She would have to bite her tongue and sit on her hands to stop from slapping his smug face.  

But really both of those shows have an agenda.  One right and one left, is it really fair to criticize they have guests that support their point of view?  

I would counter that while the shows both have agendas, the shows are not otherwise comparable relative to basic facts and integrity of "reporting".  

It is fair to criticize televising guests who support a POVS which is not supported by evidence or facts. Hannity has a colorful history of including lies, conspiracy  theory, and partisan fabrications, Maddow does not.

 My spouse listens to that program on YouTube while washing dishes in the evening. 

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36 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I would counter that while the shows both have agendas, the shows are not otherwise comparable relative to basic facts and integrity of "reporting".  

It is fair to criticize televising guests who support a POVS which is not supported by evidence or facts. Hannity has a colorful history of including lies, conspiracy  theory, and partisan fabrications, Maddow does not.

 My spouse listens to that program on YouTube while washing dishes in the evening. 

I can agree.  My point was who cares that Maddow or Hannity don't have guests from extremists opposite of their views.

I never paid much attention to Hannity at all until Obama became President.  His almost immediate disdain for Obama was apparent.  HIs repeatedly asking for his birth certificate and saying he would by him a one-ticket to Kenya really was over the top.  He should thank Obama.  His book about defeating the Obama agenda in 2010 was a best seller.  

I read this article back in 2017 about him being the top reporter of conspiracy theories.  Rachel Maddow didn't make the list.  

https://www.vox.com/2017/11/15/16649292/hannity-conspiracy-theorist-transcript-data

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

Look what happens when a liberal media figure shares a rational opinion:

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/nbc-chuck-todd-aoc-concentration-camp-remarks

What happened?

Was it improper for Todd to express his editorial opinion in the monologue? Did he misbehave in some way as a journalist? More likely, this is simply an article about the entertainment value of social media opinion threads. 

Maybe you could clarify which media behaved badly. 

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4 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Look what happens when a liberal media figure shares a rational opinion:

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/nbc-chuck-todd-aoc-concentration-camp-remarks

So "what happens" is that two reporters for news sites I've never heard, Judd Apatow, and Adam Scott disagree with him?  

I get that Fox is trying to portray liberals and democrats as having just as much of a problem with political tribalism as conservatives and republicans, but it sort of fell flat.

I would agree though that AOC is an example of the political tribalism we need to be wary of, but her rise to prominence is more of a response to the tribalism on the other side, not the cause of it.

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“President Donald Trump has scored his highest approval rating ever in a key national poll, but the media outlet that produces it, USA Today, never mentioned that fact in its write-up.

This week’s USA/Suffolk poll, taken from June 11 through June 15 and presented by RealClearPolitics along with other polling, had the president at a 49 percent approval rating versus 48 percent who disapprove.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/20/trump-approval-usa-today/

 

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