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And let us all not forget how long after the event, it took for the amateur clown to even utter any remarks n Charlottesville.

That was another thing that was so deplorable.

The lack of any response at all.

 

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2 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

The attempts by Trumpsters to redefine Trump's remarks on Charlottesville are laughable at best, but are truly pathetic and desperate.

Again, we all know what he said.

And here is a short list of Republicans, who at the time, condemned his remarks:

John McCain

Lindsey Graham

Marco Rubio

Jeb Bush

Cory Gardner 

Do you know who SUPPORTED Trump's deplorable remarks?

David Duke.

Do we all remember who David Duke is?

I guess Trumpsters are very comfortable with the likes of David Duke.

"Why we voted for Donald Trump": David Duke at the white supremacist Charlottesville protests:

 

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7 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I’m not sure what was divisive about this.  Is it that he praised Lee, who by most historians is considered to be a great general?

You don’t find that Biden was being divisive by opening his campaign by relighting the falsehood that Trump said neo-nazis were fine people?

I disagree that most historians consider Lee a great general. He was popular among his troops, but one of his biggest plans in the war was to send his army into two days of uphill charges against an entrenched position, where they were repeatedly mowed down. Also he refused to make a prisoner swap with Grant, when Grant insisted that black Union troops be included. His troopsmassacred black soldiers who tried to surrender at the Battle of the Crater.  

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/

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2 hours ago, herring_RN said:

"Why we voted for Donald Trump": David Duke at the white supremacist Charlottesville protests:

 

All part of the Democrat game of pointing out various loathesome people who support Trump.  It’s like they need validate or fuel their hate for our president.

I wonder who Louis Farrakhan has voted for in the past?  I’m familiar with a family member of a friend who was very vocal about being anti-Trump, voted for Clinton, and now has been arrested for sexual assault on a minor?  

Various bad people in the world support one politician/ party or another for various reasons.

Democrats, and the lunatic far-left supporters like to project the worst of their opponents traits on anyone who likes any conservative ideology's.

It happens here everyday from a small minority of posters.

All part of the game.  From a results oriented perspective, Trump is very successful president.  So, really, that’s all they have.  They aren’t able to debate the issues. 

Biden just fired the opening salvo to re-enter himself into this game.  We know Trump, for better or worse, wont back down.  It’s going to be a long, ugly election season.

As for David Duke,  he used Trump’s words and gave them his own meaning to further his own agenda.

Of course, Democrats can never pass up an opportunity to play the racism card.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I still don't get it.   It just seems weird that an Army and "country" that lost a War is so esteemed.

It's part of Germany and Japan's "heritage" too.

Germany doesn't praise anyone in it's Nazi past.  Why should we praise anyone except the poor soldiers that lost their lives, and the families they left behind.  

Neither does Japan.  When I was in Hiroshima recently it clearly stated "Japan started the war.  Let's not repeat this evil."

Last I checked they were free countries.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

I still don't get it.   It just seems weird that an Army and "country" that lost a War is so esteemed.

It's part of Germany and Japan's "heritage" too.

Germany doesn't praise anyone in it's Nazi past.  Why should we praise anyone except the poor soldiers that lost their lives, and the families they left behind.  

Neither does Japan.  When I was in Hiroshima recently it clearly stated "Japan started the war.  Let's not repeat this evil."

Last I checked they were free countries.

 

 

Only esteemed by a particular subset, in this country.

I do not hold the Confederation in any esteem.

 

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13 hours ago, herring_RN said:

"Why we voted for Donald Trump": David Duke at the white supremacist Charlottesville protests:

 

David Duke talking about fulfilling the promises of Donald Trump!

I continue to be amused by Trumpster attempts to spin the ugly truth: their guy is a racist, supported by other racists, as evidenced by video and recorded interviews.

I think Trumpsters would argue that the sun isn't hot, if they thought making such a ridiculous argument would help their flawed candidate.

But nobody, except the already indoctrinated believe the spin.

Seriously.

Who do they think they are fooling?

Sadly, only themselves.

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9 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Only esteemed by a particular subset, in this country.

I do not hold the Confederation in any esteem.

 

Oh I get that.  There have been plenty of protests against the Confederate. 

Even when I lived in Atlanta in the late 70's, Stone Mountain. a memorial to the Confederacy, (which you might have heard of that has Lee, Jefferson and Stonewall Jackson carved into it on a site they bought from KKK members whom actually had a meeting on the mountain), was controversial.  So I get it's only a particular subset.  In this case that subset makes it the most visited site in Georgia.

Again, it's a bit baffling.   I would be like Hitler being carved into a mountain as a memorial.  We're probably the only country where the war criminals on the losing side are revered in such a way.  I don't get it.  But we've already had many conversations about this when we talked about the confederate flag and statue controversies a while back and my opinion hasn't changed.

 

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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

Oh I get that.  There have been plenty of protests against the Confederate. 

Even when I lived in Atlanta in the late 70's, Stone Mountain. a memorial to the Confederacy, (which you might have heard of that has Lee, Jefferson and Stonewall Jackson carved into it on a site they bought from KKK members whom actually had a meeting on the mountain), was controversial.  So I get it's only a particular subset.  In this case that subset makes it the most visited site in Georgia.

Again, it's a bit baffling.   I would be like Hitler being carved into a mountain as a memorial.  We're probably the only country where the war criminals on the losing side are revered in such a way.  I don't get it.  But we've already had many conversations about this when we talked about the confederate flag and statue controversies a while back and my opinion hasn't changed.

 

I have been to Stone Mountain.

When my friends who now live in upstate NY, lived in Atlanta area, we went to Stone Mountain to see Fourth of July fireworks.

Yes, that was where the big celebration was held.

It is crazy, that anybody would hold the Confederation in any kind of esteem.

 

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Donald Trump re-enters the ugly world of racism each time he defends his indefensible remarks on Charlottesville.

He also re-enters the ugly world of racism, each time he denigrates migrants at the southern border, using the same language as White Nationalists.

Donald Trump further divides this nation by calling for Muslim "bans."

But hey, it all plays well to his rabid, and cult-like base.

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On 4/27/2019 at 1:30 PM, SC_RNDude said:

You should read the transcript of his speech.  He never said there were 

 

Trump never referred to those groups as very fine people.  Biden knows that.  It was shameful for Biden to kick off his campaign with that kind of speech.  Furthering the divide that’s already present.

 

“Tapper described that portion of the press conference: “Now, elsewhere in those remarks, Trump did condemn neo-Nazis and white supremacists. So he’s not saying that the neo-Nazis and white supremacists are very fine people.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46474/watch-even-cnns-tapper-admits-trump-didnt-call-neo-ryan-saavedra

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Full text: Trump’s comments on white supremacists, ‘alt-left’ in Charlottesville

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TRUMP: I do think there is blame – yes, I think there is blame on both sides. You look at, you look at both sides. I think there’s blame on both sides, and I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. And, and, and, and if you reported it accurately, you would say.

REPORTER: The neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville.

TRUMP: Excuse me, they didn't put themselves down as neo-Nazis, and you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group – excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

REPORTER: George Washington and Robert E. Lee are not the same.

TRUMP: Oh no, George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down – excuse me. Are we going to take down, are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him? Okay, good. Are we going to take down his statue? He was a major slave owner. Are we going to take down his statue? You know what? It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally – but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people, but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats – you had a lot of bad people in the other group too.

REPORTER: I just didn’t understand what you were saying. You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?

TRUMP: No, no. There were people in that rally, and I looked the night before. If you look, they were people protesting very quietly, the taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee. I’m sure in that group there were some bad ones. The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call ‘em. But you had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest, because you know, I don't know if you know, but they had a permit. The other group didn't have a permit. So I only tell you this: there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country. Does anybody have a final – does anybody have a final question? You have an infrastructure question.

Blame on both sides.

 

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