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30 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

If CNN stacked the deck against Sanders it would not surprise me because they have already done this in the past to push their agenda  (town hall with Sherriff Israel)

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/02/24/cnn-getting-torched-revelation-many-4-sheriffs-deputies-hid-parkland-mass-shooting-606359

Yes, the public does have a different expectation from CNN but unfortunately they (CNN) have proven themselves bias on many occasions. 

The Democrat party itself has proven bias against Bernie Sanders. In the 2016 election the DNC gave preference to H.Clinton over Bernie (as evidenced by the leaked emails) which led to the resignation of Wasserman-Schultz and Donna Brazile (who also was found to have given Clinton the questions to the debate prior to the debate).

I don't think it is a great leap to again think that CNN is playing favorites again.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/cnn-accused-of-failing-to-disclose-that-bernie-sanders-town-hall-was-loaded-with-democratic-operatives

And yes y'all, I know these are conservative websites, and again, that is where you get more info than the mainstream (aka left bias) media shares with the public.

I guess we are just supposed to accept the reporting of media outlets which right wing and partisan, while also enjoying a relative lack of accuracy or ethical reporting. 

Like bizpac review.  They are a unreliable source when looking for facts but they are a good source for bias confirmation. 

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I think it is (unfortunately) safe to say that all "news" organizations put a spin, bias etc. out there. That is why I always look to the different/opposing sites to attempt to get to the truth. It is just sad what has become of the profession in the mainstream media that was supposed to be unbias in their reporting. That is what has led to all the right wing news outlets, because the mainstream became left wing news.

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Isn't it funny how congressional Republicans and FOX news are really upset about every lie except Trump's?  FOX has resorted to quoting Rush Limbaugh as a portion of their journalism and coverage of the testimony.  How odd that they will believe liars when it is convenient.  And isn't it curious how many liars and cheats are in Trump's circle? 

 

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7 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

I think it is (unfortunately) safe to say that all "news" organizations put a spin, bias etc. out there. That is why I always look to the different/opposing sites to attempt to get to the truth. It is just sad what has become of the profession in the mainstream media that was supposed to be unbias in their reporting. That is what has led to all the right wing news outlets, because the mainstream became left wing news.

Again, Daisy, please read the history of Fox.

Better yet, read the history of journalism and newspapers in this country.

I think you will find it interesting.

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4 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

I think it is (unfortunately) safe to say that all "news" organizations put a spin, bias etc. out there. That is why I always look to the different/opposing sites to attempt to get to the truth. It is just sad what has become of the profession in the mainstream media that was supposed to be unbias in their reporting. That is what has led to all the right wing news outlets, because the mainstream became left wing news.

While that is certainly the sentiment in the right wing bubble it just isn't based in reality. Sharing only unreliable right wing sources for your position doesn't support the musing that you look to "opposing" sites for truth. If that claim is true, there should be some evidence in these threads. 

Otherwise, all we have is you calling reputable journalism "mainstream" while suggesting that their bias is disqualifying at the same time you share bad media sites known for partisan spin and inaccuracies. 

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5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Isn't it funny how congressional Republicans and FOX news are really upset about every lie except Trump's?  FOX has resorted to quoting Rush Limbaugh as a portion of their journalism and coverage of the testimony.  How odd that they will believe liars when it is convenient.  And isn't it curious how many liars and cheats are in Trump's circle? 

 

Yes.

I have stated many times how amazed I am that the average Trumpster, lacks the basic curiosity to ask: Why does Trump surround himself with criminals?

Listening to Republicans try to discredit Michael Cohen is hilarious.

Trump trusted Cohen to fix his dirty deeds for 10 years!!!!!!!!!

If Cohen is such a liar, what does that say about Trump's judgement?

Ten years, people.

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3 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Yes.

I have stated many times how amazed I am that the average Trumpster, lacks the basic curiosity to ask: Why does Trump surround himself with criminals?

Listening to Republicans try to discredit Michael Cohen is hilarious.

Trump trusted Cohen to fix his dirty deeds for 10 years!!!!!!!!!

If Cohen is such a liar, what does that say about Trump's judgement?

Ten years, people.

Yep, 10 years as his fixer.  And he has all the motivation in the world, such as obtaining a get out of jail card and movie and book deals, to rat out Trump.  But yet he says he doesn't know of any collusion and nothing he has said points to any criminality of Trump.

I am amazed that the average TDS afflicted has pinned their hopes on this dirtbag and convicted liar.  Sad, really.  Just, sad.  

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

Yep, 10 years as his fixer.  And he has all the motivation in the world, such as obtaining a get out of jail card and movie and book deals, to rat out Trump.  But yet he says he doesn't know of any collusion and nothing he has said points to any criminality of Trump.

I am amazed that the average TDS afflicted has pinned their hopes on this dirtbag and convicted liar.  Sad, really.  Just, sad.  

Cohen did implicate Trump in crimes, we're you not listening or don'tyou  think that they are important laws?  I mean, you have made clear that you think that campaign finance crimes aren't important, so maybe laws are considered optional when considering Trump, eh?

I am amazed that you would use TDS in your remarks as if the derangement is paying attention to credible reporting, facts, and direct observations of Trump's  incompetence. Health professionals would better understand that derangement would better describe a willingness to believe a liar in spite of the evidence.  Regardless, I rarely see anyone outside of die hard trump supporters use it .

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14 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I think you missed the point of the article.  

For  one, they weren’t Sander’s supporters.

Your condescension is disappointing.

OK.  As you know I can take what I dish out.

The point probably did indeed go over my head and maybe I shouldn't call Democrats "Sander's Supporters".  

Sanders supports have long thought they were treated dirty by the Democrats and thought Hillary was favored by them. Although they sure gave Trump a lot of coverage and people say it was that non-stop coverage that got Trump his much needed attention they didn't like them for that.

So CNN planted "democratic operatives" in their own show is the conclusion based on who attended, even though they asked appropriate questions. 

That is such a stretch.  But these are strange times.

Non-supporters and have been known to attend these kinds of things.  Remember the Obama "town hall meetings" where he went to promote The Affordable Care act and how the Tea Party attended and deliberately disrupted it so no one would be heard and Fox News covered it extensively.  Perhaps those people were really colluding with Fox News.

Sounds crazy doesn't it.  

 

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Just because the known liar Cohen has accused Trump of wrong doing does not make it true. Can you say plea deal!! This whole three ring circus is obviously just another way to attempt to discredit Trump. It is especially pathetic to have to testimony on the very day our President is in Vietnam attempting to help all people of the world. What we did learn however is that Trump did not tell Cohen to lie to Congress, and no evidence of Russian collusion. Maybe the media and Dems time, and taxpayer money would be better spent on things that would actually help the people.

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7 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Just because the known liar Cohen has accused Trump of wrong doing does not make it true. Can you say plea deal!! This whole three ring circus is obviously just another way to attempt to discredit Trump. It is especially pathetic to have to testimony on the very day our President is in Vietnam attempting to help all people of the world. What we did learn however is that Trump did not tell Cohen to lie to Congress, and no evidence of Russian collusion. Maybe the media and Dems time, and taxpayer money would be better spent on things that would actually help the people.

Cohen claims of Trump's criminal tendencies are believable. SDNY is in the process of investigating the appearance of unlawful activity by Trump and his family. 

Cohen testified that Trump expected him to stick to the false narrative designed by Trump. Frankly the collusion is obvious. The bigger question is was Trump a willing party to the Russian interference or was he just a rube to be blackmailed. 

 

It is a little alarming that you believe that discovering whether or not the POTUS is a criminal or traitor isn't very important and amounts to a waste of resources. You must have been really furious with the House investigations of Clinton, eh?

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6 hours ago, Daisy4RN said:

Just because the known liar Cohen has accused Trump of wrong doing does not make it true. Can you say plea deal!! This whole three ring circus is obviously just another way to attempt to discredit Trump. It is especially pathetic to have to testimony on the very day our President is in Vietnam attempting to help all people of the world. What we did learn however is that Trump did not tell Cohen to lie to Congress, and no evidence of Russian collusion. Maybe the media and Dems time, and taxpayer money would be better spent on things that would actually help the people.

You really don't get to say he's a lair and then turn around sand say what you learned was that there was no collusion.  Either you believe all of it or none of it.

But I do believe that a known liar and self-serving criminal has no credibility.  I did, as did the right wing press hear there was no collusion.

On the other hand if I was involved with someone and I was going down and other person was going to walk and look innocent I'd be tempted to bring them down with me.  

While Fox News barely covered the story, I think it's a news worthy story and there's enough questions out there that congress wasn't wasting time and it's not media behaving badly.

I do agree with Fox New's take on the situation "The bottom line: the daylong extravaganza probably did little to change the minds of Trump supporters who view him as a pathetic convicted criminal, or Trump opponents who view him as a reformed sinner now shining a light on the president's dark deeds."


BTW, the talks with Korea collapsed, but nice try.

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