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1 minute ago, Tweety said:

I agree that there is no left leaning bias in CNN portraying Mrs. Feinstein in a negative light in her interaction with the children.   But is their bias against her as a older woman in their portrayal?  She certainly is getting some bad publicity about it and having to do some damage control.

She is concerned about climate change, but perhaps just isn't sold on the Green Deal.   

From her website:       https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/globalwarming-atimetoact

My criticism of her is that she sounded like Mitch McConnell.

That has absolutely nothing to do with her being an older woman.

It has to do with being in a position of power for a very long time, and not welcoming challenges.

She clearly didn't like being confronted by the students.

She relied on tired lines, used by those in power, trying to shut down ideas the either aren't ready to hear, or don't want to hear.

She was clearly unprepared for those students.

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3 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

My criticism of her is that she sounded like Mitch McConnell.

That has absolutely nothing to do with her being an older woman.

It has to do with being in a position of power for a very long time, and not welcoming challenges.

She clearly didn't like being confronted by the students.

She relied on tired lines, used by those in power, trying to shut down ideas the either aren't ready to hear, or don't want to hear.

She was clearly unprepared for those students.

Fair enough, but I wasn't talking about your opinion, but the press's favoritism of the students in their reporting.

I'm pretty sure she's heard of the Green plan and made up her mind already prior to them getting there, so while she might not have been prepared for these students, certainly she knew her stance.  At least she didn't give the standard ass kissing response. "thank you so much for your concern, I will give it careful consideration".

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4 hours ago, Spidey's mom said:

That's an excellent look at what happened.  Thank you!

I live in California and like herring, am well aware of Feinstein and all she has done and been through.  I don't agree with much of her political ideas now but that doesn't mean I can't applaud her handling of these kids.  

I think she did a great job.  

 

Yes, it is highly unfortunate that Senator Feinstein's life was directly affected by both homophobia and gun violence.

That one event in her life, means she actually has a lot in common with many Americans.

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3 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Yes, it is highly unfortunate that Senator Feinstein's life was directly affected by both homophobia and gun violence.

That one event in her life, means she actually has a lot in common with many Americans.

I think that's what's endeared me to her all these years.  She was against homophobia back when it wasn't politically correct to be so.  I can't believe she's 85.  

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3 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Fair enough, but I wasn't talking about your opinion, but the press's favoritism of the students in their reporting.

I'm pretty sure she's heard of the Green plan and made up her mind already prior to them getting there, so while she might not have been prepared for these students, certainly she knew her stance.  At least she didn't give the standard ass kissing response. "thank you so much for your concern, I will give it careful consideration".

She also had copies made and given out of a alternative that she explained to them would have a better chance of passing, and invited their feedback.

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9 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Today, a KY contingent of the Sunrise Movement is meeting with McConnell.

Yeah, and that didn't go so well.

Some 20 KY high school students traveled to DC to confront Mitch, in part because they could never find him at his Louisville office.

From my personal experience, it can be near impossible to reach anyone in his DC, Louisville or Lexington offices.

Mitch hides.

That is why he is called "the turtle."

Students over 18, were arrested outside his DC office today.

The younger kids weren't arrested.

What a wonderful Civics lesson the students got today!

When politicans are beholden to corporations and big donors, they don't need to waste their time talking you, the lowly citizen.

At least Senator Feinstein met with the students.

The Turtle is the Senate leader, pushing for a vote on the Green New Deal because he hopes to hurt Democrats, but he won't meet with students.

And why should he?

They didn't pay for his Senate seat.

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26 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Yeah, and that didn't go so well.

Some 20 KY high school students traveled to DC to confront Mitch, in part because they could never find him at his Louisville office.

From my personal experience, it can be near impossible to reach anyone in his DC, Louisville or Lexington offices.

Mitch hides.

That is why he is called "the turtle."

Students over 18, were arrested outside his DC office today.

The younger kids weren't arrested.

What a wonderful Civics lesson the students got today!

When politicans are beholden to corporations and big donors, they don't need to waste their time talking you, the lowly citizen.

At least Senator Feinstein met with the students.

The Turtle is the Senate leader, pushing for a vote on the Green New Deal because he hopes to hurt Democrats, but he won't meet with students.

And why should he?

They didn't pay for his Senate seat.

According to Sunrise Movement, there were about a hundred there to “storm” his office (their words, not mine). About 40 arrested.

 

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17 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

According to Sunrise Movement, there were about a hundred there to “storm” his office (their words, not mine). About 40 arrested.

 

I think that's awesome.  It's how it's done.  It's how Baby Boomers ended the Vietnam War, it's how African Americans gained equality, it's how AIDS activists stopped the killing of hundreds of thousands of AIDS victims.  

Glad to see the younger generation getting involved.  Maybe they'll make a change.

I might see an issue however, with involving minors in such activities.  I would presume they would have the permission of their parents, but it's not really an avenue that I personally would allow my child to attend without me there....if I were a parent.  Although there are adults there.

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17 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

According to Sunrise Movement, there were about a hundred there to “storm” his office (their words, not mine). About 40 arrested.

 

Yeah, I read coverage of the event, in the Washington Post.

I commend those KY high schoolers for attempting to track down Mitch.

 

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27 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I think that's awesome.  It's how it's done.  It's how Baby Boomers ended the Vietnam War, it's how African Americans gained equality, it's how AIDS activists stopped the killing of hundreds of thousands of AIDS victims.  

Glad to see the younger generation getting involved.  Maybe they'll make a change.

I might see an issue however, with involving minors in such activities.  I would presume they would have the permission of their parents, but it's not really an avenue that I personally would allow my child to attend without me there....if I were a parent.  Although there are adults there.

Like the Covington Catholic kids?

I don't believe Nick Sandmann's parents were with him in DC.

But chaperones were with him.

The annual trip to DC is very popular with schools in KY.

Fifth-graders make the trip. 

When I was in school in RI, the only kids who went to DC on a school trip, were the students involved with Close-Up.

That was a student club focused on government.

But down here, it is a field trip for those with permission, and money to pay for the trip.

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40 minutes ago, Tweety said:

I think that's awesome.  It's how it's done.  It's how Baby Boomers ended the Vietnam War, it's how African Americans gained equality, it's how AIDS activists stopped the killing of hundreds of thousands of AIDS victims.  

Glad to see the younger generation getting involved.  Maybe they'll make a change.

I might see an issue however, with involving minors in such activities.  I would presume they would have the permission of their parents, but it's not really an avenue that I personally would allow my child to attend without me there....if I were a parent.  Although there are adults there.

Pick your battles, though.  This doesn’t seem to me to be a battle worth having an arrest record, in my opinion.

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18 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

Pick your battles, though.  This doesn’t seem to me to be a battle worth having an arrest record, in my opinion.

I think having an arrest record for what is essentially being a participant in a democracy is a commendable thing.

Attempting to save the planet, and all those who inhabit it, is a commendable thing.

Being arrested for assaulting a member of the media at a Trump pep rally, is not a commendable act.

Yes, choose your battles carefully, dude.

I agree with you on that particular point.

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