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3 hours ago, Tweety said:

Nice deflection.

Local and state politicians did comment.  While it was national news it does seem to be that when it involves children or large amounts of people like in the theater do national politicians respond.  Obama often commented on shootings but certainly not every mass shooting because he would have been commented every day.  How many has Trump commented on?

I think it's more of a "well another workplace shooting..thoughts and prayers.....yawn" response...next story. 

Had he been an illegal immigrant and not a homegrown killer, what do you think the response would have been?

It’s not really a deflection if I addressed the subject of the discussion.  

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Now, here is an example of the media behaving badly, and it comes from Fox News.

No real surprise there, but the irresponsible and reckless comments made by Dan Bongino, are truly dangerous because DJT believes everything that comes from Fox and Friends.

To recklessly suggest that there was a "coup" plot is shameful.

Yes, media behaving badly.

Unfortunately, I don't expect Fox to clean up their act.

 

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3 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

 

I have read numerous accounts in the media of this latest shooting.

You do know WHO hasn't discussed it?

Yep, you all guessed correctly!

DJT!

The buffoon continues to be fixated on his vanity crisis, while the real crisis in this country goes unaddressed: Gun violence.

But of course, the issue of gun violence doesn't stir up the rabid base that erroneously believes that liberals want to take their guns.

 

Trump did actually tweet about the shooting in Aurora on the same day it happened. He praised law enforcement and sent condolences to the victims and families. Perhaps this wasn't reported in WaPo or the NYT, but he did send a tweet, which he seems to use more than his own press staff. 

 

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9 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Trump did actually tweet about the shooting in Aurora on the same day it happened. He praised law enforcement and sent condolences to the victims and families. Perhaps this wasn't reported in WaPo or the NYT, but he did send a tweet, which he seems to use more than his own press staff. 

 

That is fine and good, but thoughts and prayers do nothing against the continued wave of gun violence, do they?

It is a public health crisis, and he continues to ignore it.

A wall on the southern border will not stop Americans from shooting Americans.

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A Emmy-winning journalist’s opinion on bias in today’s media.  Lara Logan of CBS:

“That’s distortion of the way things go in real life, because although the media has historically always been left-leaning, we’ve abandoned our pretense, or at least the effort, to be objective today."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43610/propagandists-emmy-award-winning-journalist-lara-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

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15 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

It’s not really a deflection if I addressed the subject of the discussion.  

You made it sound like you were talking about politicians not saying much about the shooting happening in a state with strict gun laws,  because you were talking about politicians in the line above what I called a deflection.

When you changed the subject did you mean that it was the media that said didn't report on the shooting happening in a state with strict gun laws and that's an example of media behaving badly?  You weren't clear.  

I'm confused.  

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12 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Now, here is an example of the media behaving badly, and it comes from Fox News.

No real surprise there, but the irresponsible and reckless comments made by Dan Bongino, are truly dangerous because DJT believes everything that comes from Fox and Friends.

To recklessly suggest that there was a "coup" plot is shameful.

Yes, media behaving badly.

Unfortunately, I don't expect Fox to clean up their act.

 

Did you mean to include a link or quote.  I'm confused.  

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7 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

A Emmy-winning journalist’s opinion on bias in today’s media.  Lara Logan of CBS:

“That’s distortion of the way things go in real life, because although the media has historically always been left-leaning, we’ve abandoned our pretense, or at least the effort, to be objective today."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43610/propagandists-emmy-award-winning-journalist-lara-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Doubtful she's committing career suicide, she's currently the darling of the right wing media.  Surely Fox News or someone will pick her up.

I appreciate when people do call out the media and their biases.

She makes a lot of generalizations there.  

Such as  " all the coverage on Trump all the time is negative".  

Or "  “How do you know you’re being lied to? How do you know you’re being manipulated? How do you know there’s something not right with the coverage?” she asked. “When they simplify it all and there’s no gray. There’s no gray. It’s all one way. Well, life isn’t like that. If it doesn’t match real life, it’s probably not — there’s something wrong.”      Which makes no sense to me, other than feeding into the paranoia that the media is not to be trusted and is fake news.  

She also states that 85% percent of reporters are Democrats as an assured fact and doesn't state a source.  Of course she's being interviewed but as a journalist surely she should back this up.   I can't find any documentation of this fact.   From 2014 I found this:

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/survey-7-percent-of-reporters-identify-as-republican-188053

It states:     Meanwhile, the number of journalists who consider their role to be “investigating government claims” is at its highest yet, with 78.2 percent finding that aspect of their jobs “extremely important.”  Obama was president then.  Obviously with a Republicans in power investigating government claims would make it seem like they were slanted to the left.

I think sometimes when media says "Trump falsely stated...." which is a true unbiased statement, the right will scream "the media is so anti-Trump and biased", when it merely is a true statement.

We have long had editorials in newspapers which were slanted one way or another, and now we have news pundits that are slanted one way or another, and the internet.  It's sometimes hard to filter through what is opinion and bias and what is fact.  So I will agree with her on that.  

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Doubtful she's committing career suicide, she's currently the darling of the right wing media.  Surely Fox News or someone will pick her up.

I appreciate when people do call out the media and their biases.

She makes a lot of generalizations there.  

Such as  " all the coverage on Trump all the time is negative".  

Or "  “How do you know you’re being lied to? How do you know you’re being manipulated? How do you know there’s something not right with the coverage?” she asked. “When they simplify it all and there’s no gray. There’s no gray. It’s all one way. Well, life isn’t like that. If it doesn’t match real life, it’s probably not — there’s something wrong.”      Which makes no sense to me, other than feeding into the paranoia that the media is not to be trusted and is fake news.  

She also states that 85% percent of reporters are Democrats as an assured fact and doesn't state a source.  Of course she's being interviewed but as a journalist surely she should back this up.   I can't find any documentation of this fact.   From 2014 I found this:

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/survey-7-percent-of-reporters-identify-as-republican-188053

It states:     Meanwhile, the number of journalists who consider their role to be “investigating government claims” is at its highest yet, with 78.2 percent finding that aspect of their jobs “extremely important.”  Obama was president then.  Obviously with a Republicans in power investigating government claims would make it seem like they were slanted to the left.

I think sometimes when media says "Trump falsely stated...." which is a true unbiased statement, the right will scream "the media is so anti-Trump and biased", when it merely is a true statement.

We have long had editorials in newspapers which were slanted one way or another, and now we have news pundits that are slanted one way or another, and the internet.  It's sometimes hard to filter through what is opinion and bias and what is fact.  So I will agree with her on that.  

 

Ms. Logan has had some career problems over the years.

She isn't someone whose opinion I value much.

How does she know the political affiliation of EVERY journalist in the country?

I was a member of the Society of Professional Journalists for years.

When paying my membership dues, I was never asked my political affiliation.

As I stated before, I was never asked my political affiliation during job interviews.

I worked along inside of Democrats and Republicans, and I am sure a few Independents.

But you know what, we never discussed political affiliation, because as journalists, we couldn't ENGAGE in politics.

Sheeh.

It's one thing I like about being a nurse.

I can now engage in politics.

I can now donate to political campaigns.

I can now adhere a political bumper sticker on my car.

I can now volunteer for political causes.

I couldn't do any of that as a journalist.

 

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

Did you mean to include a link or quote.  I'm confused.  

No link.

The story is everywhere, so I assumed most posters knew what I was referring to.

 

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I continue to find it amusing that my personal experience as a journalist is continually degraded, and made fun of, while a former journalist, who lost her job for inaccurate reporting, is held up as the standard bearer for an entire industry.

I too, have won journalism awards. 

I know other journalists, who have won the same awards as Ms. Logan, the Murrow and the DuPont.

During my 15-year career, I was never accused of inaccurate reporting.

I was never made to publically apologize for inaccurate reporting, like Ms. Logan.

Yes, that is one thing Ms. Logan has over me: lying to the public.

 

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9 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

A Emmy-winning journalist’s opinion on bias in today’s media.  Lara Logan of CBS:

“That’s distortion of the way things go in real life, because although the media has historically always been left-leaning, we’ve abandoned our pretense, or at least the effort, to be objective today."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/43610/propagandists-emmy-award-winning-journalist-lara-amanda-prestigiacomo?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

Ms. Logan is not in danger of committing career suicide.

Her career has been dead in water for quite a while.

 

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