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Malaisian 777 Crash in Ukraine

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​My thoughts are with the family members of the victims.

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Ukraine planning to present evidence Russian missile shot down Malasia Flight #17. It's going to take a long time to figure out exactly what happened; the debris field is over 10 miles wide.

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how awful for the loved ones of these unfortunates. I hope they get to the bottom of it.

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I heard on the radio that the FAA restricted US planes from flying over the area.

The FAA's Notice Prohibiting Airline Flights Over Ukraine

The U.S. government did its best to keep civilian airliners away from the region.

Many crucial questions about the tragic/disastrous apparent shootdown of the Malaysia Airlines flight in Ukraine are still unanswerable. Who did it? Why? With what warning? Or repercussions?

But at this point one question can be answered: Did aviation authorities know that this was a dangerous area?

Yes, they most certainly did. Nearly three months ago, on the "Special Rules" section of its site, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration put out an order prohibiting American pilots, airlines, charter carriers, and everyone else over whom the FAA has direct jurisdiction, from flying over southern parts of Ukraine.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/07/the-faas-notice-prohibiting-airline-flights-over-ukraine/374622/

A Malaysia Airlines plane crashed in eastern Ukraine on Thursday with 295 people on board, and U.S. intelligence later confirmed that it was brought down by an antiaircraft missile.

The Ukrainian government and pro-Russian separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine immediately blamed each other for the crash, which occurred as the Boeing 777 was flying its regular route from Amsterdam to the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur.

President Obama said his administration was "working to determine whether there were American citizens on board" the downed plane. "It looks like it may be a terrible tragedy," he told an audience in Wilmington, Del.

Russia's Interfax news agency said as many as 23 Americans may have been among the passengers. More than half the passengers were Dutch, the airline said...

... "We do not exclude that this plane was shot down, and we stress that the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not take action against any airborne targets," Poroshenko said in a statement. "We are sure that those who are guilty in this tragedy will be held responsible."

A spokesman for Poroshenko later said: "We call it neither an incident, nor a disaster, but a terrorist act."...

... The Ukraine Security Service later released a recording of intercepted phone calls in which separatists purportedly discussed the shootdown, indicating that they were responsible.

"We have just shot down a plane," says one man on the tape, identified as Igor Bezler, one of the leaders in the pro-Russian separatist movement in eastern Ukraine, at about 4:40 p.m. local time. "It was 100 percent a passenger aircraft," another man, identified as "Major," responds later...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-plane-disappears-over-ukraine-feared-shot-down-by-missile/2014/07/17/0fffe1e6-0dcb-11e4-8341-b8072b1e7348_story.html

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If it winds up being an act of the Russian gov't, I don't know how they'll be able to rationalize it.

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Just reading about this news now. . . How dreadful. :(

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Casualties of war. How tragic that they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Babies, families, experts in HIV research etc. What a waste.

It did take the focus off Gaza and the war there.

I am so tired of war.

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I am glad the FAA had the foresight to ban flights over such a troubled area. Too bad other airline authorities did not follow that lead. It seems obvious that it was a planned event for political purposes. Conversations discussing the event were uploaded before the plane exploded. The puzzle is whether it was a Ukrainian planned setup to frame the rebels or a Russian executed event to frame the Ukrainian officials as framing the rebels.

As a former Soviet bloc nation, the Ukrainian military is armed with Russian weapon systems including the Buk anti-aircraft missiles. Any of the parties involved could have fired the shot.

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I know a Fed Ex pilot (lives in our neighborhood) whose cargo flight flew that exact same route 10 hours prior to that plane getting shot out of the sky.

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There had already been two planes shot down. I understand that the others were not passenger jets. Still, how did your neighbor feel about the flight plan he took at the time he turned it in? Did he have any reservations about flight over that area?

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