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Lower premiums than expected, another Obamacare problem.

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A few weeks ago the CBO reported that the cost of plans on the exchanges were even lower than expected, not surprisingly conservatives see this as a problem. This same source (HotAir) has also had many scare stories on how much more they expected the plans were going to cost than what the estimates were so it's hard to tell what would count as being a non-disaster.

Maybe a conservative can explain why we should be upset that what we hoping wouldn't happen didn't actually happen.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/04/15/cbo-obamacare-premiums-and-healthcare-spending-will-rise-by-less-than-expected-because/

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I don't know why Conservatives would dislike this news. I think it sounds great!

The plans pay providers less, have fewer providers in the networks, and have tighter controls on the use of health care for their members.

The Democratic Senators up for re-election should be sure to include this information prominently in their campaigns.

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I don't know why Conservatives would dislike this news. I think it sounds great!

The plans pay providers less, have fewer providers in the networks, and have tighter controls on the use of health care for their members.

The Democratic Senators up for re-election should be sure to include this information prominently in their campaigns.

It's price reduction through competition, apparently I've misunderstood what conservatives have wanted, and still currently advocate, in health insurance reform since that seems to be a core part of it.

So conservatives don't want competition to reduce prices?

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Isn't there a component in the ACA that requires lower fees to be paid? That is hardly competitive; punitive though.

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I've heard that it doesn't matter what conservatives want. The ACA is the law and it's not going away. That ends discussion.

I just want candidates to run on their voting records and actual results of what they've supported. That way voters can make an informed decision at the polls.

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Isn't there a component in the ACA that requires lower fees to be paid? That is hardly competitive; punitive though.

No, there isn't a component of the ACA that requires insurers pay providers lower fees. By grouping more individuals into large group plans, insurers have more ability to reduce their premiums by only including providers that agree to a more reasonable fee. It's a result competition, not legislation.

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I've heard that it doesn't matter what conservatives want. The ACA is the law and it's not going away. That ends discussion.

I just want candidates to run on their voting records and actual results of what they've supported. That way voters can make an informed decision at the polls.

I can't tell if that's sarcastic or not.

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I read this morning that many of the 8 million who signed up are duplicates. That and the 8 million are only those who put plans in the cart, not 8 million who actually have paid up and are ready to enjoy the ride.

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No, there isn't a component of the ACA that requires insurers pay providers lower fees. By grouping more individuals into large group plans, insurers have more ability to reduce their premiums by only including providers that agree to a more reasonable fee. It's a result competition, not legislation.

So I guess it is just semantics. More reasonable fee no doubt means less......Where is the incentive for a new and young smart kid to even go into medicine anymore? This whole future of medical care frightens me....one of the benefits of being older I think....I might already be gone before it collapses altogether.

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I've heard that it doesn't matter what conservatives want. The ACA is the law and it's not going away. That ends discussion.

I just want candidates to run on their voting records and actual results of what they've supported. That way voters can make an informed decision at the polls.

There are going to be things in any type of health reform that people don't like. Conservatives seem to be trying to capitalize on this while being careful not to let anyone find out that their version would have the same problems, possibly just more exaggerated. I can see how this produces the general statement of "Obamacare is bad and wasn't done right, no more questions".

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So I guess it is just semantics. More reasonable fee no doubt means less......Where is the incentive for a new and young smart kid to even go into medicine anymore? This whole future of medical care frightens me....one of the benefits of being older I think....I might already be gone before it collapses altogether.

So you think we should prevent insurers from getting competitive prices?

How much salary would be too low?

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