Went to ER for 2 hrs got a CT scan and Confined for 2 hrs.BIll is 22,794?why is that? - page 2

Hi all, about a month ago I had an accident while playing basketball.I hit my head on the floor and was rushed into the emergency room.They did a ct scan on my head then was lying in the... Read More

  1. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from gauge14iv
    Not every county has a county hospital though...
    Also, during emergencies, the ambulance transports to the closest hospital, what with it being urgent and all....
  2. by   Bala Shark
    The orginal poster lives near Los Angeles because that is where the hospital is at....If there were no county hospitals in Santa Barbara county, the ambulance could have transported him to Los Angeles County hospital..I know for a fact that Los Angeles has a county hospital..

    I dont think it was that much of an emergency since 2 hours is not too long..I was wondering about what about the homeless people who have to go to the hospital, they will send them to the closest county hospital..
    Last edit by Bala Shark on Sep 10, '06
  3. by   emllpn2006
    I would defenatly speak to the billing office sounds like they may have gotten a extra 2 in the price. My grandmother was complaining about how much her last ct scam cost today and her bill was about 2500.00
  4. by   EricJRN
    Quote from Bala Shark
    I was wondering about what about the homeless people who have to go to the hospital, they will send them to the closest county hospital..
    At least in the area where I run as a medic, EMS makes transport decisions based on patient condition (and sometimes patient request, if it won't compromise the patient's care), not our perception of the patient's socioeconomic status or ability to pay.

    We're generally going to transport to the closest appropriate facility, which means the closest hospital that offers the level of service that the patient is likely to require.
  5. by   Mimi2RN
    The bill is way too high for that kind of care, unfortunately people with no insurance pay the most for medical care.

    Talk to someone in the business office, they were a big help when my uninsured son had an appy, and later suffered a bad ankle fx. He was able to get help through MediCal.
  6. by   Bala Shark
    Quote from EricEnfermero
    At least in the area where I run as a medic, EMS makes transport decisions based on patient condition (and sometimes patient request, if it won't compromise the patient's care), not our perception of the patient's socioeconomic status or ability to pay.

    We're generally going to transport to the closest appropriate facility, which means the closest hospital that offers the level of service that the patient is likely to require.
    It should not be like that..There are people making minmium wage and with no insurance..If the hospital did not find it a emergency like it was not because the orginal poster just stayed for two hours for a CT scan..He should have transfered to a county hospital with the county picking up the tab..As I said before, he lives close to Los Angeles and there is bound to be a county hospital near by.
    Last edit by Bala Shark on Sep 11, '06
  7. by   EricJRN
    Quote from Bala Shark
    It should not be like that..There are people making minmium wage and with no insurance..If the hospital did not find it a emergency like it was not because the orginal poster just stayed for two hours for a CT scan..He should have transfered to a county hospital with the county picking up the tab..As I said before, he lives close to Los Angeles and there is bound to be a county hospital near by.
    If the hospital sent him home, why would there be a need to transfer him anywhere?
  8. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from Bala Shark
    The orginal poster lives near Los Angeles because that is where the hospital is at....If there were no county hospitals in Santa Barbara county, the ambulance could have transported him to Los Angeles County hospital..I know for a fact that Los Angeles has a county hospital..

    I dont think it was that much of an emergency since 2 hours is not too long..I was wondering about what about the homeless people who have to go to the hospital, they will send them to the closest county hospital..
    Actually, LA County has 5 county hospitals, but I don't know why that is now relevant, given that the OP wasn't taken to any of them. That you seem to believe he ''should have been'' is of no assitance in figuring out why the bill is as high as it is, or how he can get help paying it. I am sure the medics had their rationale for taking him where they did, and in reality, even if it had been a County hospital, he'd still need to make payment arrangements. Just because they absorb the majority of the indigent care doesn't mean that they don't make attempts to collect payment for services rendered.
  9. by   gauge14iv
    Quote from Bala Shark
    The orginal poster lives near Los Angeles because that is where the hospital is at....If there were no county hospitals in Santa Barbara county, the ambulance could have transported him to Los Angeles County hospital..I know for a fact that Los Angeles has a county hospital..

    I dont think it was that much of an emergency since 2 hours is not too long..I was wondering about what about the homeless people who have to go to the hospital, they will send them to the closest county hospital..
    But you dont get to tell EMS where they take you in an emergency...and none of us were there to say what kind of urgency was needed or not. That can only be determined after the fact. Basing a judgement about wether or not this was an emergnecy on the fact that they sent him home after 2 hours uses after the fact information - not prior to.

    At any rate - I am betting your charges got mixed up with someone elses or something. Getting the itemized bill should give you some insight. My husbands total bill for a 4 hour ER visit with CT of the head a few weeks ago after he took a tumble off his bicycle (thank goodness he had a helmet on!) was about 1800.00 hospital, 600.00 physician, so 2400 total.
    Last edit by gauge14iv on Sep 11, '06
  10. by   CseMgr1
    Definitely get an itemized bill. Hospital billing departments do make mistakes..and this was never more evident when my BIL received a bill for a
    self-administered medication he had received during a visit to a local ER. Medicare does not reimburse for this service, and they turned him over to collections when he wouldn't pay it. It was only when my sister threatened to turn them in to CMS, that they backed off.
  11. by   charebec65
    Quote from Mimi2RN
    The bill is way too high for that kind of care, unfortunately people with no insurance pay the most for medical care.

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    I agree that the bill is way too hight and there's probably a mistake. The OP should contact the business office at the hospital about it.

    My 19 y/o son is in the unenviable position right now of not having insurance. It is his own fault as he did not sign up for college classes this fall or he could have stayed on ours. He has chosen not to pay the $250 monthly COBRA to have insurance. He is healthy and able to work so he has no need, nor as far as I'm concerned right, to go on any kind of government assistance. We've told him to get a job with insurance which he's done but there's a 90 day wait for the insurance. If he does something stupid and gets hurt or gets sick, we've told him that he'll just have to set up payment arrangements with the facility.

    I'm not sure I totally agree with the statement about the uninsured paying the most. They're often the ones who don't pay the bills or get government assistance in paying them. Our insurance is over $14,000 per year...., yes, over $14,000 - that is not a typo. On top of that we have copays for everything. Most of my meds have $50 copays. My husband's isn't even on their non-formulary tier so it's nearly $200 a month.... At one point, my copays alone were more than my car payment.... These are cash payments going out....just to get the service or med...

    We own a home so if we didn't pay these charges, the entity would get a judgment against us and attach it to our home. It would get paid when we decided to sell it...... We care about our credit rating so we can't let these things go.... We are not rich. We're just a middle income family living month to month like so many "middle class" people. It's difficult coming up with all the copays sometimes....... Nope, it's not cheap being insured....
  12. by   Bala Shark
    Quote from mercyteapot
    Actually, LA County has 5 county hospitals, but I don't know why that is now relevant, given that the OP wasn't taken to any of them. That you seem to believe he ''should have been'' is of no assitance in figuring out why the bill is as high as it is, or how he can get help paying it. I am sure the medics had their rationale for taking him where they did, and in reality, even if it had been a County hospital, he'd still need to make payment arrangements. Just because they absorb the majority of the indigent care doesn't mean that they don't make attempts to collect payment for services rendered.
    I am very familiar with the county hospital system..If people cannot pay like the orginal poster then the county will pick up the tab! You think the county hospitals will let it go to a collection agency like private hospitals would? No, they would not. The county hospitals will look at your income and see if you can pay and if you cannot then the county will pick up the tab..Look, the orginal poster is 21 years old, probably a nursing student and he does not live with his parents..So where is he going to get the money from?

    A person can be bankrupt for life if people are not sent to county hospitals..You think a person with no income can stay 45 days in a private hospital with no insurance? Also the orginal poster, could have requested a county hospital since he has control over his care...
    Last edit by Bala Shark on Sep 11, '06
  13. by   Bala Shark
    Quote from EricEnfermero
    If the hospital sent him home, why would there be a need to transfer him anywhere?
    I am talking about the services..If the orgnial poster would have said he could not afford 22 k to the hospital, things would have been different..He would have been moved to somewhere else..

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