Rush Limbaugh needs a....

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  3. by   indigo girl
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    Fox has the disease of Parkinsonism. Limbaugh has a diseased mind.
    And, what does it say about the people who continue to support this man in his malevolent, sick kind of thinking? There is a serious lack of compassion being manifested in our country today, and this is just one more example.
  4. by   adrienurse
    I've never agreed with his hateful line of thinking.
  5. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Rush was simply quoting Fox himself. In a book, Fox stated that when he appears before Congress, he sometimes doesn't take his meds so that his symptoms appear worse then when controlled by meds.

    Did you see the clip of him swaying so uncontrollably in the commercial he made? Did you also see the clip of him making a campaign appearance YESTERDAY in which he DIDN'T sway so much?

    Rush stated that he was acting, or off his meds. To back up that assertion he quoted none other than Micheal J. Fox himself, stating that this is EXACTLY what he does to make a point.

    You can be appalled by Rush's comments, but considering the juxtaposition between his symptoms for the camera, and his symptoms in real life, AND considering his own comments on this subject, I have to agree with Rush:

    He was acting, OR, he was off his meds (by his own choice to emphasize the point).

    Simply put, there is ample evidence that Micheal J. Fox's symptoms, when controlled by medications, are not routinely as bad as those displayed for the camera. And that is a valid observation to make.

    Even Fox himself joked about it yesterday, "It's ironic, given some of the things that have been said in the last couple of days, that my pills are working really well right now."

    It's fair to ask: is it really ironic? I do feel for Fox, but that does not entitle him to exaggerate his condition to make a political point.

    In the end, the debate itself is over. From the moment it was observed that adult stem cells have plenipotent capability, the dangers of embryonic stem cells doomed them to futility. Despite their dangerous tendencies to grow widely and be subject to rejection, plenipotency made embryonic stem cells an attractive draw. Finding that plenipotency in adult cells, without the drawbacks of embryonic ones, moved the scientific motives beyond embryonic cells. The only true advances being made (and some advances ARE being made) in stem cell research is in adult stem cells.

    The only reason this remains a debate is because it serves as a proxy argument for abortion, cheapening the value of unborn life. The discussion of embryonic stem cells in now a political one, and not a true scientific endeavor.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Oct 25, '06
  6. by   rninme
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Rush was simply quoting Fox himself. In a book, Fox stated that when he appears before Congress, he sometimes doesn't take his meds so that his symptoms appear worse then when controlled by meds.

    Did you see the clip of him swaying so uncontrollably in the commercial he made? Did you also see the clip of him making a campaign appearance YESTERDAY in which he DIDN'T sway so much?

    Rush stated that he was acting, or off his meds. To back up that assertion he quoted none other than Micheal J. Fox himself, stating that this is EXACTLY what he does to make a point.

    You can be appalled by Rush's comments, but considering the juxtaposition between his symptoms for the camera, and his symptoms in real life, AND considering his own comments on this subject, I have to agree with Rush:

    He was acting, OR, he was off his meds (by his own choice to emphasize the point).

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    lol....Tim...you are just trying to rattle my cage...not going to work.
    You obviously do not know everything about Parkinson's....even WITH meds, people with early onset exibit exactly those symptoms. Sitting and trying to 'stay still' works sometimes....not always. Meds to not get rid of the sways and tremors...but sometimes they do help lessen the effects. All the sinemet in the world won't stop them. When you are tired or stressed, the symptoms get worse. Our family has lived with parkinson's for generations....and I think very highly of MJF for what he is trying to accomplish. Don't like the message??...Fine, don't listen...don't attack the messenger.

    Rush Limbaugh is a hate monger....and a hateful person. He created his own problems with drug addiction...MJF most certainly didn't ask to get parkinson's disease.
    Last edit by rninme on Oct 25, '06
  7. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from rninme
    MJF most certainly didn't ask to get parkinson's disease.
    And, he most certainly would not have made as effective a commercial if he presented himself as he did at his press conference yesterday.

    Very convenient. Or 'ironic'. Or, just as he says he does, he didn't take his meds before making the commercial. Or, he was acting for the camera.

    Rush has a valid point.

    But this is an equally valid point: embyronic stem cells will NOT solve MJF's, or anybody elses, Parkinsons. The real advances will be made with adult stem cells, if at all. The more time and money we waste on what is now an outdated concept (plenipotency only in embryonic cells), the more lives will be lost to a political cause. And that cause is abortion, not research.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Oct 25, '06
  8. by   rninme
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    And, he most certainly would not have made as effective a commercial if he presented himself as he did at his press conference yesterday.

    Very convenient. Or 'ironic'. Or, just as he says he does, he didn't take his meds before making the commercial. Or, he was acting for the camera.

    Rush has a valid point.

    But this is an equally valid point: embyronic stem cells will NOT solve MJF's, or anybody elses, Parkinsons. The real advances will be made with adult stem cells, if at all. The more time and money we waste on what is now an outdated concept (plenipotency only in embryonic cells), the more lives will be lost to a political cause. And that cause is abortion, not research.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

    ....rattle, rattle, rattle.....not biting today
  9. by   VivaLasViejas
    ~sigh~

    When will Rush---an admitted drug addict, no less---figure out that when he points a finger at someone else, three fingers are pointing right back at him??

    Oh, that's right.........when people stop PAYING him to point fingers.

    'Nuff said.
  10. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    I have to give Rush some sort of credit though. It apprently takes a lot of energy to be so stupid.
  11. by   ZASHAGALKA
    That commercial was shameless manipulation. It's not somehow morally offensive to point that out. If MJF doesn't want the status of his disease discussed, then he shouldn't USE that status to make his political points. HE made the discussion fair game.

    Rush's comments were brilliant. The 'message' is everything in politics, and the 'message' of that commercial has been seriously torpedoed by Rush. Now, instead of listening to MJF, the majority of people that see it will be thinking about Rush's comments.

    That's why he's the master. Like him or not, he's rich because he's the best at what he does.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  12. by   VivaLasViejas
    That may be, but that doesn't make it RIGHT.
  13. by   ZASHAGALKA
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    That may be, but that doesn't make it RIGHT.
    Agreed, but it's not anymore WRONG than the shameless manipulation in the first place.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  14. by   VivaLasViejas
    You have a point there, Timothy.

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