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  1. by   lisamc1RN
    Quote from mercyteapot
    Being intelligent and being a fool are hardly exclusive.
    True, that. I was just debating that he isn't a fool in the general sense of the word... i.e. lacks judgement. He is an outstanding judge of the political scene and he calls things right a lot of the time. I'm not saying that he hasn't done some dumb things in his life. Calling him a fool over the MJF thing, though, I totally disagree with.
  2. by   pickledpepperRN
    Did talk radio critisise him two years ago for doing an ad for Arlen Specter"

    ...His body visibly wracked by tremors, Fox appears in a political ad that prompted Limbaugh to speculate that Fox was "either off his medication or acting."

    Fox told Couric, "At this point now, if I didn't take medication I wouldn't be able to speak."

    He said that he appeared in the ad only to advance his cause, and that, "Disease is a non-partisan problem that requires a bi-partisan solution."

    "You know what, I don't really care about politics," Fox said. "We want to appeal to voters to elect the people that are going to give us a margin, so we can't be vetoed again."

    In fact, Fox said he has and would vote for a Republican. "Arlen Specter is my guy," he said "I've campaigned for Arlen Specter. He's been a fantastic champion of stem cell research. I've spoken alongside Mike Castle, who's a Republican congressman. Absolutely. This is not about red states and blue states. This is not about Democrats and Republicans. This is about claiming our place as the scientific leader in scientific research and moving forward and helping our citizens...
    http://cbs11tv.com/entertainment/ent...299191354.html.
  3. by   lisamc1RN
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    Professional "wrestling" is watched by millions of Americans too - numbers alone don't make a concept "valid".

    I see little difference between "professional wrestling" and "talk radio" - be it Air America or Rxush Limbaugh...

    cheers,
    Roy (who is getting sick and tired of liberals and conservatives spewing their [censored]).
    You are very right that sheer numbers do not make something valid. Rush Limbaugh has survived over the years because he has made valid and meaningful points, though. If he hadn't, he would have been long gone. Just like any other area of the entertainment industry, it's a brutal line of work. When you hear the sound bites only, you may question what it is that he has to say, but listening to him over a period of time, you might come to realize that he has some interesting things to say, whether you ever agree with him or not. Or maybe you wouldn't. I'm not sure how to compare talk radio with professional wrestling, having never watched professional wrestling. I do know that Rush has entered the "arena" of political ideas and seems to be holding his own.
  4. by   lisamc1RN
    And it changes nothing to me that he was with a Republican two years ago when he did his ad. The fact is, he is advocating for stem cell research. He is using his disease (which he openly admits to doing) to further his cause, and he is opening himself up to criticism of his claims and his tactics by doing so.


    Quote from spacenurse
    Did talk radio critisise him two years ago for doing an ad for Arlen Specter"

    ...His body visibly wracked by tremors, Fox appears in a political ad that prompted Limbaugh to speculate that Fox was "either off his medication or acting."

    Fox told Couric, "At this point now, if I didn't take medication I wouldn't be able to speak."

    He said that he appeared in the ad only to advance his cause, and that, "Disease is a non-partisan problem that requires a bi-partisan solution."

    "You know what, I don't really care about politics," Fox said. "We want to appeal to voters to elect the people that are going to give us a margin, so we can't be vetoed again."

    In fact, Fox said he has and would vote for a Republican. "Arlen Specter is my guy," he said "I've campaigned for Arlen Specter. He's been a fantastic champion of stem cell research. I've spoken alongside Mike Castle, who's a Republican congressman. Absolutely. This is not about red states and blue states. This is not about Democrats and Republicans. This is about claiming our place as the scientific leader in scientific research and moving forward and helping our citizens...
    http://cbs11tv.com/entertainment/ent...299191354.html.
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    I don't like procedures that create "extra" embryos.
    Why no adopt?

    These frozen embyos will degrade or be destroyed if not used for research.
    I you believe life begins at conception if has to be unethical to create "extra" people.
    If you believe life begins later than a group of undifferentiated cells why not allow hope?
  6. by   Roy Fokker
    Hi Lisa,

    I don't differentiate between Al Franken or Rush Limbaugh. They are both skilled at entertainment. Incredible as it may sound - they both stand for the SAME things. And as much as they would like us to believe that they 'hate' each other - they have more in common than they realise.

    I'm not going to elaborate on what those "same things" are - I've said it too often and repeated it enough over the past two years... to the extent that I've had folks accuse me of being a 'broken record'.

    And finally: Calling Al Franken or Rush Limbaugh "intelligent people" is ... well, the less said, the better.


    My $0.79 on this subject,
    Last edit by Roy Fokker on Oct 26, '06
  7. by   Tweety
    Quote from lisamc1
    And it changes nothing to me that he was with a Republican two years ago when he did his ad. The fact is, he is advocating for stem cell research. He is using his disease (which he openly admits to doing) to further his cause, and he is opening himself up to criticism of his claims and his tactics by doing so.

    I agree. He certainly shouldn't be naive to think he isn't going to be criticized for advocating stem cell research.

    But what famous person hasn't used their disease to further their cause? Melissa Etheridge, Sheryl Crow, Christopher Reeve, just recently. Even John Wayne did.

    Questioning Mr. Fox's sincereity in desiring a cure and help for his disease doesn't sit right with me. However, I don't see nothing wrong with speculating that Mr. Fox is exaggerating his symptoms for the camera, becuase he probably was. Which to me is no worse that Jerry Lewis parading crippled kids in front of the camera, or the photographer selling photos of her naked breastless torso, etc.

    Bottom line is he has the disease and he wants a cure. It's a shame it's come down to a political issue, but stem cell research is a hot political issue.

    I abstain from any comments about the intregity, present or past of Mr. Limbaugh because I thoroughly loathe the man and can't be objective.

    But I've been good, I let it go on five pages without comment until now. LOL
    Last edit by Tweety on Oct 26, '06
  8. by   mercyteapot
    What does Rush Limbaugh need? Hmmm... my first response was something we're not allowed to say on this forum. My second was ''a lobotomy''. But for the sake of keeping it friendly, let's just say he needs a hug. But I ain't giving him one!!!!
  9. by   lisamc1RN
    Quote from mercyteapot
    What does Rush Limbaugh need? Hmmm... my first response was something we're not allowed to say on this forum. My second was ''a lobotomy''. But for the sake of keeping it friendly, let's just say he needs a hug. But I ain't giving him one!!!!
    :chuckle He's not exactly the snuggly wuggly type, is he?
  10. by   lisamc1RN
    Tweety, I certainly don't question MJF's desire for a cure. Never even entered my mind. As for the other stars, I guess I've just never seen themselves NOT take their medicines and then show up on a political commercial really sick or in pain either.

    Quote from Tweety
    I agree. He certainly shouldn't be naive to think he isn't going to be criticized for advocating stem cell research.

    But what famous person hasn't used their disease to further their cause? Melissa Etheridge, Sheryl Crow, Christopher Reeve, just recently. Even John Wayne did.

    Questioning Mr. Fox's sincereity in desiring a cure and help for his disease doesn't sit right with me. However, I don't see nothing wrong with speculating that Mr. Fox is exaggerating his symptoms for the camera, becuase he probably was. Which to me is no worse that Jerry Lewis parading crippled kids in front of the camera, or the photographer selling photos of her naked breastless torso, etc.

    Bottom line is he has the disease and he wants a cure. It's a shame it's come down to a political issue, but stem cell research is a hot political issue.

    I abstain from any comments about the intregity, present or past of Mr. Limbaugh because I thoroughly loathe the man and can't be objective.

    But I've been good, I let it go on five pages without comment until now. LOL
  11. by   Spidey's mom
    This thread is about whether Rush had a right to point out that MJF may have NOT taken his meds in order to show what Parkinson's really looks like. I say Rush has a right to say it. MJF admitted that he does this. What is the big deal?

    As to "stem cell research" people are still, on this thread, lumping embryonic stem cells with adult stem cells.

    Some of us think that it is wrong to create NEW embryos to use for research. Some think that it is ok to use the embryonic stem cell lines already created. (not me). Some think it is ok to use and create and clone whatever we want. (again, not me).

    Just because some people have sincere qualms about cloning and using embryos does not make them unintelligent or lacking in compassion.

    And I listen to Rush almost every day as does my #2 son while he is driving a skidder (he also listens to Shawn Hannity), my husband in his logging truck and my oldest son when he gets a chance at college. We are hardly fools.

    This isn't supposed to be a referendum on Rush, but a conversation about whether he has a right to say that MJF stopped using his meds for the commercial . . and MJF did. Case should be closed . . . . MJF put himself out there in the political arena, he should be able to handle what comes . . and I think actually he has. It is the public that is in a hissy fit.

    steph
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Oct 26, '06
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from lisamc1
    :chuckle He's not exactly the snuggly wuggly type, is he?
    Hi Lisa! Long time no see!! Glad to have you weighing in.

    Actually, I've been to one of the "Rush To Excellence" tours and he is very funny and approachable and nice. He sponsors a leukemia fundraiser every year and his listeners send in millions of dollars.

    Ah, but I've been here before, trying to come to Rush's aid . . but he doesn't need it and I won't change any minds anyway. I had to listen to him when my husband used to come in from riding the tractor and tell me about him . . .back in the day when I was a liberal Democrat. I was skeptical too . .. . so I started listening and he made so much sense.

    Marrying my redneck husband, becoming a wacko Christian, listening to conservative talk radio . . . .guess I was doomed.

    steph
  13. by   mercyteapot
    I don't think MJF skipping his meds was dishonest at all. He wanted to show people what uncontrolled Parkinson's looks like. Fortunately for him, his is still controlled by meds. The day may come when it isn't, as that day has come for many, many people with Parkinson's. As for other stars skipping their medications, what other disorders are out there where skipping meds would create such a stunning effect? You can't compare advocating for more money for cancer research and skipping a dose of chemo with what MJF did, because the effects wouldn't be the same. What would be the point? And as far as what ''the purpose of this thread'' is, since when are we meant to be confined strictly to the content of the OP? On discussion boards, the discussion evolves. It isn't like we've gone off on a tangent and started talking about ice cream cones or something.

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