Quote from CBlover
Whoa. I get that to an extent. Yet when you've got a convicted individual who has raped and killed young girls as so many death row inmates have, I don't think that wanting them to experience some pain is necessarily morally equal to what they did. I don't feel as though the perpetrator should experience severe pain at death, however. Once these individuals have reached the point of their execution, though, most of them have been through severe psychological pain and I think most have hit rock bottom and this to me, suffices. I don't think we should torture them at death.
I realize that I passed a pretty harsh judgement there, but it's heartfelt. Let me explain.
I think that it's completely human to feel for a brief moment that a person who has committed a vicious, brutal crime against someone else, deserves to be subjected to the same thing they so happily dished out. I used to work in law enforcement and I've had some really dark thoughts about some of the perpetrators of violent crime that I met. Especially when you meet their victims and are confronted with the pain the offender has inflicted. But having a fleeting thought about it, is where it stops. It never goes any further than that. Hammurabi style justice, should in my opinion, be relegated to the distant past where it belongs.
While I understand the feelings of anger or even rage at the offenders, and that that anger combined with feeling compassion for the victim and their loved ones can lead to thoughts of exacting revenge, I do judge a person who actually wants to make the fantasy of revenge, a reality. Advocating
for torture is bloodthirsty to me. It actually is as morally repugnant to me as the bloodthirst that generated the original crime. Once you cross that line, it is my belief that you no longer have a right to sit in judgement of the violent offender.
I find actually wanting to implement the practice of having human beings tortured as punishment for crimes committed, a moral failing. And on a societal level, the ramifications are grotesque. Is the state actually going to pay people who's job it is to kill people and take extra care to make that killing painful? That job would erode the moral core of any decent person, even though I must say that I doubt a decent person would accept that job. Where does it stop?
If a drunk driver kills someone's daughter, should the legal system have drivers who will deliberately run over the drunk driver's offspring, so they really get to experience the same pain they inflicted on someone else? And how does one punish rapists? Should the legal justice system hire people who's job description is serial rapist? CBlover, I know you don't think so. I'm just outlining why I think the idea to punish an offender with the same kind of pain they inflicted on their victim, is morally reprehensible.
Quote from AnnieOaklyRN
I am a believer that if they truly killed someone, proven by significant evidence, then why not make them suffer, they made the person they killed suffer. Karma!
For as long as innocent people get convicted of crimes they didn't commit and for as long as people get executed for crimes they didn't commit, the standard I bolded is completely useless. I would hope that in all the cases where people have been sentenced to death, the legal system considered the crime proven (beyond a reasonable doubt). I have to assume that the decision to execute someone isn't taken lightly, yet history proves that sometimes judges and juries get it wrong.