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Is having children a "right"?

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I'm mostly curious about those who say healthcare is a right? Do you also believe it is a right for a person to have children?

Me, I don't believe that healthcare is a right, but do believe it is a right to have children.

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Well... it is right there in the Constitution... somewhere, right? ;)

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The constitution states that all rights not specifically enumerated in the constitution, nor denied by the states, reside with the people. Basically, to me that means that you have the right to do anything that isn't specifically illegal. It reminds me of the Wiccan principle "If it harm none, do as you will." Our founders spoke of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (of course they meant only for White property-owners), but I don't see how you could have any of the three without adequate healthcare. The exercising of any right also implies commensurate responsibility.

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Even though you can't afford them and someone else i.e. the taxpayers have to pay for you to exercise that right?

Or if you are mentally ill or developmentally challenged and can't raise said children?

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I sure wish that it wasn't a right... I take care of so many children who have absolute worthless wastes of space for parents. Honestly. :(

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having children isn't a right, it is a biological function...

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I would rather health care be a right instead of having children, but one has nothing to do with the other. The problem is that we can't stop people from getting a person pregnant or getting pregnant so it is what it is. If a person can't get pregnant on their own or can't afford adoption or IVF then they just don't have children. It's like comparing apples to seahorse.

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It is no more a basic human right to have children than it is a basic human right to be six feet tall. Certainly the state should not restrict the number of children a family is allowed to have, but the idea that the state can guarantee every couple children is absurd.

Infertility has taught me that childbearing is not a right. It is a privilege, governed by the will of God and one's biological makeup.

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No, having children is not a right. My generation grew up with childless Aunts and Uncles who treated us as their own offspring. I've got cousins who were added to the family through adoption. My grandparents always said there was no difference between them and those born from their children.

IVF is a sore question here. The cost of fertility treatments are borne by the couple. However, any complications, multiple births, etc are funded through universal healthcare. The multiple births have placed burdens on our NICUs, with the advent of triplets, quints, etc. Gynie has extra patients due to complications in the early months and AntePartum has had an increase in bedrest patients due to Mum's carrying multiples.

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No, having children is not a right. My generation grew up with childless Aunts and Uncles who treated us as their own offspring. I've got cousins who were added to the family through adoption. My grandparents always said there was no difference between them and those born from their children.

I've heard people say this kind of thing before...."They're no different than my own children," or "I love them both exactly the same (adopted & biological child)."

I've also heard a few people be brutally honest in saying there was a difference between their biological vs adopted child(ren).

Besides, how would someone who doesn't have a biological child know if there's a difference?

When we would be watching television and there was a rebellious female child and the father was in the picture, my ex would always be like, "that HAS to be his step-daughter." He was obviously implying that a biological father wouldn't tolerate the child acting or dressing a certain way that he would let slide with a child that wasn't "his."

I know it's not politically correct and the right thing to say is, "I love them like they're my own," but ironically he was usually right. I think there is a difference too...even if it's not apparent to anyone else...there has to be something a little different/special about a child who you gave birth to or who looks just like you.

Anyway...I don't think having children should be a right. In fact, it should be more regulated. I've seen tons of people who wouldn't be approved to adopt a dog sent home with a newborn. Then, there are always the mentally ill (the really sick mentally ill) who have children and don't even know what planet they're living on.

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I've heard people say this kind of thing before...."They're no different than my own children," or "I love them both exactly the same (adopted & biological child)."

I've also heard a few people be brutally honest in saying there was a difference between their biological vs adopted child(ren).

Besides, how would someone who doesn't have a biological child know if there's a difference?

When we would be watching television and there was a rebellious female child and the father was in the picture, my ex would always be like, "that HAS to be his step-daughter." He was obviously implying that a biological father wouldn't tolerate the child acting or dressing a certain way that he would let slide with a child that wasn't "his."

I know it's not politically correct and the right thing to say is, "I love them like they're my own," but ironically he was usually right. I think there is a difference too...even if it's not apparent to anyone else...there has to be something a little different/special about a child who you gave birth to or who looks just like you.

Anyway...I don't think having children should be a right. In fact, it should be more regulated. I've seen tons of people who wouldn't be approved to adopt a dog sent home with a newborn. Then, there are always the mentally ill (the really sick mentally ill) who have children and don't even know what planet they're living on.

Bold is mine...

Regulation of the childbearing capacity of a woman is a very touchy subject.

Are we certain that we want our state or federal governments legislating that?

We are already arguing about whether or not an employer insurance policy must cover the birth control preferences of a woman, and it has been determined that the policy does not have to pay for abortion...now we are going to further legislate how many children a woman can have? When will we decide that we should control the sex of the births?

In my mind, this is not a recipe for smaller or less intrusive government.

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