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Imagine. The Tea Party and White Privilege.

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You are reading page 8 of Imagine. The Tea Party and White Privilege.. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

hahaha

Now it's down to who's idea of intrusion is better.

We've almost got this thing licked.

Move over boys and girls entrenched in lobbyist slime in D.C.

In my world healthcare for as many people as possible to save and enrich lives, trumps 2 wars that drain and kill more money and lives than anything on record. and yes, I get there could be better ways to tackle the healthcare thing. I get it. But since both are here.........

We're not getting rid of either anytime soon, so my energy would best spent to lobby my representatives for the removal of the most intrusive/deadly one first. (Wars if not obvious)

p.s. just anecdotal but real none the less.

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And while the two parties are engaged in a contest of whose erosions of the Constitution/liberty/human rights are less bad :rolleyes:, Gummint continues to grow fat and happy.....

The government - Republican or Democrat - does not give a damn about any of us!

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The government - Republican or Democrat - does not give a damn about any of us!

But everything they do is for us. :eek:

(This last statement is the reason sarcasm needs to be implemented into the typed word. Can't someone invent that?)

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And authoritarians on the left tend to be much more intrusive on the lives of individuals when it comes to banning certain types of products, deciding what kind of cars we should (and should not) drive, forbidding the demonstration of faith in God and the display of religious symbols in the public arena, limiting what we may do with our land, trying to dictate which foods and other substances we may indulge in, pushing an unwanted health-care "reform" bill down our throats, and opening the way to taxpayer funding of abortion (the toothless executive order signed by President Obama notwithstanding).

I don't much care for either extreme, but the latter strikes at the heart of what it means to be an American IMHO.:twocents:

(Gee, last time I went to Walmart, I was overwhelmed by the abundance of choices, but I digress.)

Don't forget, telling you where you can and can not smoke. Telling you how much alcohol and at what age you can drink. What age you can have sex. How fast you can drive. Who you can marry. Where you can park. (I actually got a ticket for parking the wrong direction). When you can water your grass. On and on. We're practically robots.

Guess it's just a matter of opinion what we consider intrusive. Personally, I find that listening to personal phone conversations, stopping people and harrassing them because the "look like" a terrorist or an illegal alien much for threatening than health care or environmental reform.

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my responses look like this: (and, btw, are not aimed specifically at vlv ... she just happened to articulate most succinctly some of the attitudes and blind spots that have been coming across a lot lately).

and authoritarians on the left tend to be much more intrusive on the lives of individuals when it comes to banning certain types of products, deciding what kind of cars we should (and should not) drive, thereby substantially damaging my quality of life with filth, traffic, destroyed ecosystems, trapping a huge workforce that cannot survive the collapse of this cancerous industry and costing huge amounts of my hard-earned money in taxes, industry bailouts and incentives, and cleaning up after your filthy cars

forbidding the demonstration of faith in god and the display of religious symbols in the public arena, limiting what we may do with our land, you claim you "own" my god and get to s--t on her any way you like and then want to cry that you don't get to push your religion down my throat, too? but drop a crucifix in a bottle of urine and listen to the howling ... and the lobbying against funding for the arts ...

trying to dictate which foods and other substances we may indulge in, you're welome to eat any garbage you like on your own nickel ... all that drek is readily available to adults ... just don't push it on me or my children in restaurants and school meals. and who wrote those drug laws, anyhow? not the liberals ...

pushing an unwanted health-care "reform" bill down our throats, and opening the way to taxpayer funding of abortion (the toothless executive order signed by president obama notwithstanding). conveniently leaving out the fact that abortion providers and recipients are taxpayers, too ... who have to support bogus abstinence-only nonsense in the public schools and the public benefits that are paid to the a--holes who want to kill us. of course, dictating what decisions all women shall make about their own reproduction couldn't possibly be considered "intrusive" ... not all taxpayers oppose publicly funded birth control or abortion ... nor was that bill "unwanted" by every citizen.

i don't much care for either extreme, but the latter strikes at the heart of what it means to be an american imho.:twocents:

just exactly whose america are you talking about?

it's obvious why i stay out of a lot of threads lately ... it has been unusually infuriating to keep reading that a certain small minority of humans have human rights and all the rest of us are ... what? ... martians? i was born in the usa ... some of my ancestors have been here as long as europeans have been on the continent ... some of them have been here even longer ... some of my son's ancestors were the slaves that built our economy after we fought a whole war for some peoples' freedom.

i pay my taxes, obey the law and pay my own way by my own honest labor. my son has served in two branches of the military ... both of my parents served in ww2 ... and yet ... my religion, my rights as a woman, my needs as a citizen are supposed to be put on hold just so some small minority can exploit my home, desecrate my religion, foul my water, make more money and drive filthy, nasty machines across roads built on land that used to support a whole web of life ... and in the process make life close to impossible for my grandchildren.

and you wonder why we take it personally.

in a word ... feh!

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Although I did not read all the discussion, I did wish to say that I did read the original article (post #1). I found the article, as a round about way, an invitation for all to "think outside of their perceptual box." Sometimes, our own perception is NOT the reality we often think it is...because we very often become blinded by our own prejudices and perceived truths. Reality often times presents much differently. I thought the article was timely and relevant. Good article.

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