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9 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I never would have guessed the co-founder of Greenpeace is a conservative.

He's all over the place.  But maybe like a lot of his generation (boomer which I suppose is my generation) he's become conservative as he's aged.  He's a billionaire but that wouldn't make him conservative necessarily, and it seems like he marches to his own drum.

I saw a Tweet from him yesterday that supports the pulling out of the Paris accords by the US (he's Canadian).  I've also read he says there isn't enough scientific evidence that humans contribute to climate change, that he is on the outs with Greenpeace for their tactics and them not being scientific enough.  Greenpeace takes him to task for being a corporate hack that supports the logging and nuclear energy industries.   He seems a bit crotchety with no one being good enough for him.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Patrick-Moore-a-paid-representative-of-corporate-polluters-as-Greenpeace-claims-or-is-he-an-environmentalist-who-has-been-turned-off-by-a-radicalized-movement

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5 hours ago, Tweety said:

You definitely are correct here, conservatives revile her and many Democrats, especially young, minority and particular women have elevated her to a status unlike anyone I've seen lately.  That she's come up with the Green Deal fresh out of the box when she was a bartender just a year ago is telling.  

I'm not afraid of her bold new ideas, but also would like some discussion and consideration from Democrats that know how the system works and what is reasonable and doable.   She's getting a bit too much attention and like I said does seem full of herself.   However, I also see confidence and hard work.  I've said before, it takes some self-confidence and arrogance to be a politician.  

 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-congress-interview-797214/

Sure. 

She was only a bartender a year ago. That's it, she wasn't doing anything beyond pouring drinks. That's it.  Does that seem accurate? 

SMDH

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Sure. 

She was only a bartender a year ago. That's it, she wasn't doing anything beyond pouring drinks. That's it.  Does that seem accurate? 

SMDH

Of course not.  She was involved in her community, but jumping from that to writing national policy and creating a list of Democrats that will compromise and not vote how she likes, so the Democratic Socialists can defeat them, and her arrogance is a bit much.

But these are strange times.

 

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2 hours ago, Tweety said:

Of course not.  She was involved in her community, but jumping from that to writing national policy and creating a list of Democrats that will compromise and not vote how she likes, so the Democratic Socialists can defeat them, and her arrogance is a bit much.

But these are strange times.

 

So I should just accept that characterization of AOC and her activities as a fully accurate and exhaustive description?

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

So I should just accept that characterization of AOC and her activities as a fully accurate and exhaustive description?

No.  You can express your opinion based on your experiences in life, what you see and read, and your intelligence.  Same as I have done.

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1 hour ago, Tweety said:

No.  You can express your opinion based on your experiences in life, what you see and read, and your intelligence.  Same as I have done.

The circle is unbroken. As Dude and I were discussing, the "conversation" begins with misrepresentations and fabrications about the current political target. Social media magnifies the hyperbolic and sometimes fabricated claim/criticism/concern(s). A different source responds with a more flattering and perhaps more accurate portrayal and then is accused of making a big deal out of it or shoving that person into the lime light.  Lather, rinse, repeat. 

Her bar tending certainly shaped AOCs life. She also served as an educational director for the 2017 Northeast Collegiate World Series for the National Hispanic Institute according to Wikipedia. 

 

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4 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Her bar tending certainly shaped AOCs life. 

 

I don't mean to demean her in any way for being a bartender.  But it certainly hasn't humbled her.  But rare is the humble politician.  But it does give her some cred as the rare politician that actually needs her paycheck.  

Mopping floors for Pizza Hut for $2.80 an hour had a big effect on me and my ambitions and work ethic, so I get it.

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9 hours ago, Tweety said:

I don't mean to demean her in any way for being a bartender.  But it certainly hasn't humbled her.  But rare is the humble politician.  But it does give her some cred as the rare politician that actually needs her paycheck.  

Mopping floors for Pizza Hut for $2.80 an hour had a big effect on me and my ambitions and work ethic, so I get it.

Do you know what humbled me?

Losing my media job in 2008, during the Great Recession, and being unable to find another journalism job.

I was forced to realize that even though I was highly educated, I suddenly couldn't find any kind of job.

Not even the most basic of jobs.

I had to use CONNECTIONS to get pharmacy tech job at CVS.

Then, I had to realize the entire economy had been turned upside down, and I could wallow in self pity, or I could reinvent myself.

I choose the latter, and became a nurse.

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48 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

Do you know what humbled me?

Losing my media job in 2008, during the Great Recession, and being unable to find another journalism job.

I was forced to realize that even though I was highly educated, I suddenly couldn't find any kind of job.

Not even the most basic of jobs.

I had to use CONNECTIONS to get pharmacy tech job at CVS.

Then, I had to realize the entire economy had been turned upside down, and I could wallow in self pity, or I could reinvent myself.

I choose the latter, and became a nurse.

Judging from your posts in the Daily thread, that hasn't exactly made you happy, but it keeps Big Boy fed and food on the table.  Smile.

I was caught up in the high unemployment in the 80's when I was mopping floors for minimum wage.  I lost more decent paying job and couldn't find another.   It really motivated me to stick with nursing school, to date working full time for minimum wage while going to nursing school full time was the hardest thing I've ever been through.

Unlike some people that struggled on their own and made it out of poverty or a low wage situation (think Ben Carson or Paul Ryan), I still hold on the some compassion for people in that situation, especially people with families.  Some of whom were victims of things beyond their control, like medical issues, the Great Recession, etc.  

I hope AOC gets this, and I think she does.  But saying things to people that have questions or challenge her "we're in charge now and you're in the cheap seats" is a pretty low blow.

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4 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Judging from your posts in the Daily thread, that hasn't exactly made you happy, but it keeps Big Boy fed and food on the table.  Smile.

I was caught up in the high unemployment in the 80's when I was mopping floors for minimum wage.  I lost more decent paying job and couldn't find another.   It really motivated me to stick with nursing school, to date working full time for minimum wage while going to nursing school full time was the hardest thing I've ever been through.

Unlike some people that struggled on their own and made it out of poverty or a low wage situation (think Ben Carson or Paul Ryan), I still hold on the some compassion for people in that situation, especially people with families.  Some of whom were victims of things beyond their control, like medical issues, the Great Recession, etc.  

I hope AOC gets this, and I think she does.  But saying things to people that have questions or challenge her "we're in charge now and you're in the cheap seats" is a pretty low blow.

No, it doesn't always make me happy.

Working within the US healthcare system has been a true education.

How can anyone be happy, when you know your patients are not receiving good care?

My patients at the psychiatric facility received poor care, due to purposeful Understaffing, which created unsafe conditions.

Yes, a for profit facility.

My patients at nonprofit received poor care due to indifference of night time MD.

Remember my patient with blood sugar level of 1041?

I was told I was "sweating the small stuff."

And you know all the staffing problems in my current job, at a for profit.

If you actually care about people, and their health outcomes, it is very difficult to work within the US healthcare system.

Most nurses I know personally, hate their jobs.

But sometimes, you need to put on the adult size underwear, and move forward.

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6 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

But sometimes, you need to put on the adult size underwear, and move forward.

Totally agree with everything.

It's been a myth to me to "follow your dreams",  "you can be anything you want to be", "you should be happy at your profession".  I've hated all my jobs all my life.  Sad but true.  As you can tell from my posts on the Daily Thread, I hate my current job and struggle almost weekly weather or not to quit and move on.  But I shake it off and go back.  I have bills to pay.  I care deeply about healthcare and my patients getting the best of me, but often it isn't enough and impossible.  We could go on and on.  I just want to make to retirement in one piece.

 

I find peace and happiness elsewhere.

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14 minutes ago, Tweety said:

Totally agree with everything.

It's been a myth to me to "follow your dreams",  "you can be anything you want to be", "you should be happy at your profession".  I've hated all my jobs all my life.  Sad but true.  As you can tell from my posts on the Daily Thread, I hate my current job and struggle almost weekly weather or not to quit and move on.  But I shake it off and go back.  I have bills to pay.  I care deeply about healthcare and my patients getting the best of me, but often it isn't enough and impossible.  We could go on and on.  I just want to make to retirement in one piece.

 

I find peace and happiness elsewhere.

Me too!

I find happiness in the company of my friends and my equine boys.

Nursing job allowed me to take on the care of Talli.

So, I see the job, no matter how frustrating, as a vehicle for good.

I do my best at work, but the job doesn't define me. It is just a job.

And you know, if I could afford it, I would be mucking horse stalls instead!

I predict AOC will disappear, if she doesn't deliver, and trash talks.

Democrats seem much less willing than Republicans to put up with mindless shenanigans.

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