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15 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

Evidently McConnell is calling for a vote on the Green New Deal resolution.  Seems like a good idea.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-new-green-deal-mcconnell-schumer-ocasio-cortez-new-green-deal-vote-20190214-story.html

 

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 "I challenge Leader McConnell to say that our climate change crisis is real, that it is caused by humans, and that Congress needs to act."

It seems like Mitch is making some political miscalculations in the era of Trump. 

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5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

It seems like Mitch is making some political miscalculations in the era of Trump. 

I disagree.  And, of course McConnell doesn’t have to say that.

We shall see.

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3 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

If they can debate before voting I am for it. I think the Senate should debate climate change.

If just a roll call vote only, NO!

 

Why a no on a roll call vote?

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27 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

 

Why a no on a roll call vote?

No room for discussions or questions just a hurry up vote?  This seems to be a pattern.

Mitch seems to think that the majority of Americans are against the sort of dialog AOC is trying to start in our capital. I think that he is making a mistake. 

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7 hours ago, herring_RN said:

If they can debate before voting I am for it. I think the Senate should debate climate change.

If just a roll call vote only, NO!

I agree.  A discussion would help weed out what's bad about it and help the public see what's good about it.

But it doesn't matter because Republicans will want to continue the rhetoric of "Americans don't want socialism" and there are studies to back that up and fear mongering about the Green deal with do away with tranes, planes, cars and the military. 

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/243362/meaning-socialism-americans-today.aspx

Why confuse of us discussion that might lead to some logic and truth.  Best to rush to through knowing it won't pass the Senate and throw it out.

In the end it would give Democrats their own rhetoric that Republicans don't care about average Americans.

And so it goes.......

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11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No room for discussions or questions just a hurry up vote?  This seems to be a pattern.

Mitch seems to think that the majority of Americans are against the sort of dialog AOC is trying to start in our capital. I think that he is making a mistake. 

Did you forget how Mitch promised NOT to bring items for a vote that he knew Trump wouldn't sign?

This is Mitch McConnell, political theatre, and I agree, it is a mistake on his part.

But guess what?

I don't care. If it hurts Mitch, and the GOP, then it is all good.

Mitch is up for election in 2020. Democrats always have a hard time fielding a candidate against him.

There is talk of Amy McGrath, challenging him.

Seems like a good move. She still has her legion of supporters and volunteers from her bid to unseat Andy Barr.

I would love to see Mitch have to campaign and spend money. 

McGrath forced Barr to move a bit more towards the center, hopefully she could move Mitch, right on out of here!

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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

I agree.  A discussion would help weed out what's bad about it and help the public see what's good about it.

But it doesn't matter because Republicans will want to continue the rhetoric of "Americans don't want socialism" and there are studies to back that up and fear mongering about the Green deal with do away with tranes, planes, cars and the military. 

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/243362/meaning-socialism-americans-today.aspx

Why confuse of us discussion that might lead to some logic and truth.  Best to rush to through knowing it won't pass the Senate and throw it out.

In the end it would give Democrats their own rhetoric that Republicans don't care about average Americans.

And so it goes.......

Too bad for Republicans, the ideas contained in the Green Deal won't go away.

Again, as I suggested to Daisy, check out all the things the US could be doing right now, to lower carbon emissions.

Other countries are doing these things.

Remember when this country used to be a leader?

The only thing we lead in now, is hot air, coming from Trump's mouth.

It is sad really.

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On 2/15/2019 at 7:15 AM, Lil Nel said:

Too bad for Republicans, the ideas contained in the Green Deal won't go away.

Again, as I suggested to Daisy, check out all the things the US could be doing right now, to lower carbon emissions.

Other countries are doing these things.

Remember when this country used to be a leader?

The only thing we lead in now, is hot air, coming from Trump's mouth.

It is sad really.

Many people believe that we need to protect the planet. Again, the disagreement is on HOW to do that. Yes, it is sad that our leaders cannot stop playing politics (ie not working together bc they are afraid the other side will win a point) long enough to actually do something that is good for our country and the planet. I am not sure that what we will do will be enough to combat the pollution etc. caused by other countries compared to what (little comparatively) they are doing to help the problems. If the Dems were serious I would think they would just stick to the pollution problem (in the green deal) and leave the rest alone (health care etc). Makes you wonder what the real goal is and who is pulling the strings.

On another subject, why would Dems be against 25,000 jobs for NY?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/how-the-party-of-ocasio-cortez-helped-kill-amazons-nyc-plans/ar-BBTCXrj?ocid=spartandhp

 

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On 2/14/2019 at 7:36 PM, toomuchbaloney said:

No room for discussions or questions just a hurry up vote?  This seems to be a pattern.

You mean like what Pelosi said re: ACA, no need to read it, we will find out later what it says!

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8 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

You mean like what Pelosi said re: ACA, no need to read it, we will find out later what it says!

From Snopes.com quoting the New York Times  https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/aca-versus-ahca

 

In June and July 2009, with Democrats in charge, the Senate health committee spent nearly 60 hours over 13 days marking up the bill that became the Affordable Care Act. That September and October, the Senate Finance Committee worked on the legislation for eight days — its longest markup in two decades. It considered more than 130 amendments and held 79 roll-call votes. The full Senate debated the health care bill for 25 straight days before passing it on Dec. 24, 2009.

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16 minutes ago, Daisy4RN said:

Many people believe that we need to protect the planet. Again, the disagreement is on HOW to do that. Yes, it is sad that our leaders cannot stop playing politics (ie not working together bc they are afraid the other side will win a point) long enough to actually do something that is good for our country and the planet. I am not sure that what we will do will be enough to combat the pollution etc. caused by other countries compared to what (little comparatively) they are doing to help the problems. If the Dems were serious I would think they would just stick to the pollution problem (in the green deal) and leave the rest alone (health care etc). Makes you wonder what the real goal is and who is pulling the strings.

On another subject, why would Dems be against 25,000 jobs for NY?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/how-the-party-of-ocasio-cortez-helped-kill-amazons-nyc-plans/ar-BBTCXrj?ocid=spartandhp

 

Good question.

AOC’s response was priceless.  She seemed to think that since Amazon wasn’t coming and wouldn’t get a $3 billion tax break (still would be paying $27 billion in taxes btw) that they now could spend that $3 billion on other things.

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