I'm a conservative, and i went to an alexandria ocasio-cortez rally

Really, are these promises (that we all know will not occur) anything more outrageous than anyone else has campaigned and promised?  Trump promised great healthcare for all, jobs...so many jobs..., he initially said that people were going to get a livable wage and minimum wage should be raised (then flip flopped), promised to fix Veterans problems, promises money for black colleges and school choice....on and on.

I think it's good to scrutinize her plan and expect it, and obviously it doesn't fit a conservative agenda and will be mocked by them/you.  But it's not that outrageous for a politician.  They always aim high and rarely deliver.  These are not "bold new ideas", it's the core of the Democrat and Democrat Socialist ideas and hopes for our country.

2 hours ago, Spidey's mom said:

I'm in a hurry to get ready for church so I'll throw out a few things locally.  The technology in the last 25 years has been pretty amazing. 

We have wind turbines here that help generate power for PGE (our power company).  Lots of people, business, and farmers/ranchers use solar power in our little mountain communities.  

The wild rice farmer who Spidey works for put in a huge field of solar panels and his own home runs partly on solar power.  Anecdotal, I know.

But here in rural, conservative farm/ranch/logging country, I see a lot of changes toward alternative power sources.  

Gotta go . . . later!

I read the post you were replying to (that poster is on my ignore list, so I only see when someone replies to her.  Sorry, you’re my screener!).

Typical progressive attitude.  They know what’s best for everyone, but don’t necessarily need to follow the same rules.  In the case, her reason to have a car is more important then another’s.  Similar to the Democrats passing Obamacare, but no way are they going to be on it.

48 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

I read the post you were replying to (that poster is on my ignore list, so I only see when someone replies to her.  Sorry, you’re my screener!).

Typical progressive attitude.  They know what’s best for everyone, but don’t necessarily need to follow the same rules.  In the case, her reason to have a car is more important then another’s.  Similar to the Democrats passing Obamacare, but no way are they going to be on it.

Typical response, dude.

You twist words to suit your own narrow-minded purposes.

No surprise.

I never said, or implied what you accused me of.

No wonder you love DJT!

2 hours ago, Spidey's mom said:

I'm in a hurry to get ready for church so I'll throw out a few things locally.  The technology in the last 25 years has been pretty amazing. 

We have wind turbines here that help generate power for PGE (our power company).  Lots of people, business, and farmers/ranchers use solar power in our little mountain communities.  

The wild rice farmer who Spidey works for put in a huge field of solar panels and his own home runs partly on solar power.  Anecdotal, I know.

But here in rural, conservative farm/ranch/logging country, I see a lot of changes toward alternative power sources.  

Gotta go . . . later!

That is great.

I wish we has wind turbines here, to generate power.

You also live in a more progressive part of the country.

And I noticed that ideas generally start in CA, and then make their way to the rest of the country.

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2015/07/21/state-funding-allows-progression-of-st-marys-wind-farm-plans/

Alaska has made some investment in wind energy, especially in the warmer areas. The state is very pro fossil fuel industry, however. 

Our state is slowly shifting to non-carbon based forms of energy. The eastern part of the state has many wind farms atop ridges, and there are only 2 coal-fired power plants left, the last is scheduled to close in 2025. Roof top solar arrays are popping up everywhere. I see more chargeable cars on the roads as well as charging stations. And our local transit uses hybrid busses. 

There are other simpler things that can and are being done to save energy, and thus cut down on CO2 production, such as better insulation, and painting  the tops of buildings white to reflect sunlight and reduce air condition costs. 

I think a new green deal might be able to better coordinate all these efforts, but I can understand why people would mistrust the federal government spending tax dollars on such ideas. 

11 hours ago, Tweety said:

Really, are these promises (that we all know will not occur) anything more outrageous than anyone else has campaigned and promised?  Trump promised great healthcare for all, jobs...so many jobs..., he initially said that people were going to get a livable wage and minimum wage should be raised (then flip flopped), promised to fix Veterans problems, promises money for black colleges and school choice....on and on.

I think it's good to scrutinize her plan and expect it, and obviously it doesn't fit a conservative agenda and will be mocked by them/you.  But it's not that outrageous for a politician.  They always aim high and rarely deliver.  These are not "bold new ideas", it's the core of the Democrat and Democrat Socialist ideas and hopes for our country.

 

As it turns out, it seems they were really Republican ideas.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-gaslights-green-new-deal/

1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

As it turns out, it seems they were really Republican ideas.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-gaslights-green-new-deal/

Actually dude, the criticism I have read of the Green New Deal, is that it pulls from many of Obama's ideas.

But not surprised that a right-wing publication, that uses the word fart, in the body of the story would somehow try to spin things in any direction it sees fit.

Not terribly interesting.

1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

As it turns out, it seems they were really Republican ideas.

https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-gaslights-green-new-deal/

I don't see what that article adds. What Republican ideas are you referencing?

3 hours ago, nursej22 said:

Our state is slowly shifting to non-carbon based forms of energy. The eastern part of the state has many wind farms atop ridges, and there are only 2 coal-fired power plants left, the last is scheduled to close in 2025. Roof top solar arrays are popping up everywhere. I see more chargeable cars on the roads as well as charging stations. And our local transit uses hybrid busses. 

There are other simpler things that can and are being done to save energy, and thus cut down on CO2 production, such as better insulation, and painting  the tops of buildings white to reflect sunlight and reduce air condition costs. 

I think a new green deal might be able to better coordinate all these efforts, but I can understand why people would mistrust the federal government spending tax dollars on such ideas. 

I've seen the wind turbine farms in my state as well. On the one hand, great, cut down on carbon-based energy. But they are such an eyesore-these beautiful, majestic, formerly unspoiled areas are now desecrated in my opinion. It's like putting graffiti on the Statue of David or putting a mustache on The Mona Lisa.

Maybe we have no choice, but it all makes me sad.

24 minutes ago, Horseshoe said:

I've seen the wind turbine farms in my state as well. On the one hand, great, cut down on carbon-based energy. But they are such an eyesore-these beautiful, majestic, formerly unspoiled areas are now desecrated in my opinion. It's like putting graffiti on the Statue of David or putting a mustache on The Mona Lisa.

Maybe we have no choice, but it all makes me sad.

I understand completely how you feel. I only live a few hours from the largest open coal mine in Alaska.  It is relatively near Denali national park. That foot print is certainly not kind to the majesty of the natural beauty of the region. http://www.usibelli.com

Similarly, there are places in the huge expanses north of Fairbanks where the only thing you can see for miles is arctic wilderness, mountains, and pipeline. https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060059065