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Just wanted to know what many of you think of the Affordable Care Act...Everyone will have Health Insurance....seems like many people in society aren't happy about it...what are your thoughts?

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I am in favor of "Medicare" for all.

I do not believe that a free market solution is the best solution for the people.

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My thoughts? You need to do a search of the forums. There are already multiple, multiple threads on this topic. In fact, it's currently the most recent topic in the US Politics forum.

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Stop being rude...this forum is designed for us to support one another not put each other down.....if you don't have anything nice to say then just look elsewhere

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Rose_Queen wasn't being rude. This subject is being discussed currently and at length. To start all over again with our thoughts would be hard. I'll link you to the other threads so you can see what members think about ACA or Obamacare. The first one is from the Breakroom and the political forum.

https://allnurses-breakroom.com/us-politics/obamacare-going-fail-890424.html

And then from the allnurses side:

Obamacare and Nursing.. what do you think? | allnurses

If you do a search, there are a whole lot more.

That's not being rude - we are just telling you that there are already discussions going on and starting a new one from scratch would probably not get you many responses.

Maybe framing it in a different way - like what concerns do you have personally?

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I believe that Obamacare is way too expensive for those who have 2 to 3 part time jobs because those jobs do not provide health insurance coverage for their employees, and there are numerous people who work these types of jobs now due to the waning job market in many areas. The unfortunate thing is, those with part time jobs aren't able to afford to purchase private health insurance, due to their other domestic obligations, and they all get fined every year because they don't have it. Even college graduates are having a difficult time in the area where I live. I know, I'm a mother with 2 daughters with masters degrees who have been looking for jobs for a few years now.

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Just wanted to know what many of you think of the Affordable Care Act...Everyone will have Health Insurance....seems like many people in society aren't happy about it...what are your thoughts?

Two years have passed, there are still millions without health insurance... and even those with it are not guaranteed access to healthcare.

Rationing, that was thought of as being a conspiracy theory is happening... Forbes Welcome

How the Insurance Market Is Responding to Obamacare

Medicare Part B Reimbursement Cuts Are Backdoor Rationing | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

And the out of pocket expenses are so high, people who do have insurance try to avoid using it.

We can do better, and single payer isn't the answer.

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Two years have passed, there are still millions without health insurance... and even those with it are not guaranteed access to healthcare.

Rationing, that was thought of as being a conspiracy theory is happening... Forbes Welcome

How the Insurance Market Is Responding to Obamacare

Medicare Part B Reimbursement Cuts Are Backdoor Rationing | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

And the out of pocket expenses are so high, people who do have insurance try to avoid using it.

We can do better, and single payer isn't the answer.

It is true that we continue to line the pockets of insurance CEOs and executive suite occupants while millions of Americans are held hostage to large deductibles, etc.

It is encouraging to see you post that we can do better.

If not single payer (which is working for other modern and successful countries) what is the recommendation then? Progressives have been waiting for years now to have an actual serious conservative plan fleshed out for the voters to examine.

Come on, don't keep us in suspense; what will be rolled out for the health care needs of the populace if Trump is elected and you maintain a conservative Congress?

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We need tort reform and related reform to reduce the amount of litigation. We need to find ways to reduce and control costs of pharmacology and treatment. We need to reduce certain regulations so that we don't have Many Physicians Predict Mass Exodus From Medicare Over MACRA

We need to find a way to remove completely (best case) insurance companies, or in the (worse case) move them to catastrophic use only. There needs to be a direct relationship between the healthcare workers and the patients without interference of any kind from insurance companies that only benefit (profit wise) for reduced or no care.

If you look into how much money was invested in creating and sustaining the patient affordable care act, commonly known as Obamacare, America could have invested $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 in each legal American citizen's HSA account.

Providers take cash; so HSA would work. Not all providers accept insurance (which only gets in the way of what the patient really needs).

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We need tort reform and related reform to reduce the amount of litigation. We need to find ways to reduce and control costs of pharmacology and treatment. We need to reduce certain regulations so that we don't have Many Physicians Predict Mass Exodus From Medicare Over MACRA

We need to find a way to remove completely (best case) insurance companies, or in the (worse case) move them to catastrophic use only. There needs to be a direct relationship between the healthcare workers and the patients without interference of any kind from insurance companies that only benefit (profit wise) for reduced or no care.

If you look into how much money was invested in creating and sustaining the patient affordable care act, commonly known as Obamacare, America could have invested $1,000,000 to $2,000,000 in each legal American citizen's HSA account.

Providers take cash; so HSA would work. Not all providers accept insurance (which only gets in the way of what the patient really needs).

Did you know that medical malpractice costs represent less than 5% of US health care expenditures? That includes defensive medical practice habits. Harvard School of Public Health looked at that a few years back in a widely quoted study/report.

'Medical liability costs have been in the bull's-eye of efforts to bend the health care cost curve down,” said lead author Michelle Mello, professor of law and public health at HSPH. 'But we can't have a meaningful debate about the potential effects of liability reform without solid cost estimates. At nearly $56 billion per year, the medical liability system carries heavy costs, and there are good reasons to want to improve it. But we should be realistic about what liability reform can achieve in terms of health care cost control.”
The largest portion of total malpractice costs is actually related to defensive medical practices, not payment to victims.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/medical-liability-costs-us/

We have had HSA for some time now. They predate the ACA. Clearly they are not a substantial fix for our health care concerns. I don't recall any conservative leader or legislator recommending that level of investment in health care.

There have been a number of times in my life when I did not have employer provided insurance. Sometimes I had no insurance. I found that many specialists were not interested in uninsured care. Nope. It was not easy to get primary care without insurance. If the insurance company would have paid $38 for something, I was paying $100 or more for the same thing.

Sure there will be a mass exodus if payment goes from fee for service to pay for performance.

That actually is a measure which may directly stabilize rising costs while outcomes have suffered.

I've heard that concern of fleeing docs once or twice before in my long nursing career.

We can survive that if it EVER happens, IMHO.

The reality is that

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We have had HSA for some time now. They predate the ACA. Clearly they are not a substantial fix for our health care concerns.

The difference is that my point is government putting money into personal HSA's. That has not yet been done. What has been done is insurance; and insurance (whether multi-payer or single payer) doesn't work.

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