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me either.

i've seen families surround the bed, hold hands, and pray. sometimes they sing a hymn or two also. which is fine. and actually pretty moving.

as a hospice nurse, as the patient died, i've had families sing to them and pray.

but asking the nurse? nope. never been asked.

i've been asked. i offer to call the chaplain, offer to share a moment of silent prayer (they don't have to know whether i'm praying for them or for the strength to put up with them or even if i'm praying) or, in the case of one truly persistent person, claimed to be a buddhist and left to check on my other patient.

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i think the idea that questions about religion shouldn't be asked has more to do with etiquette than some enduring moral principle. we don't ask these questions and don't expect to be asked them because they make us uncomfortable. in most cases it's probably best not to ask or be asked such questions just for the sake of efficiency, but i have to admit that it bothers me when i see educated people pretending that such things are "completely private" and are aghast when someone tries to proselytize them.

we live a public life in a free country, there is nothing anyone says that should offend us so deeply. it's a little ironic that we've all had patients who clearly take pleasure in telling us all about their intimate physical problems, and we don't blink and eye, but when they get aggressive with their god, we feel we have to either shut them down or seek escape. haven't we been taught that a person's religion/spirituality is an important part of their make up, forms their health beliefs and forms an essential point for assessment?

we're people for others. it seems to me that, short of taking actual abuse, there is a sense in which we should leave, or at least try to leave, our preconceptions and commitments and/or discomfort about the level or absence of our own religious beliefs in the parking lot.

not so ironic. we're nurses -- most of the patients we encounter are there for some physical problem. for spiritual issues, it would be more appropriate to seek out other venues.

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OK, here's my 2 cents/experience: As far being asked what church I attend, I don't. Working every weekend kind of precludes that. When people say I need to belong to a church, I say, " Well, I look at my work as a kind of ministry. And, as far as working every weekend, somebody's got to do it, and wouldn't you rather have someone here with a glad heart than someone who'd rather be in church, rather than doing the Lord's work?"Pretty much closes the arguement right there, y'know? If they want me to pray with them, ya just can't go wrong with the 23rd Psalm, or you can say something simple like "Thank You, God, for being with us through difficult times. Thank You for the good that I can see, and the good that I can't yet see." AMEN? And one time when I was doing home-health visits, and sitting on a bathroom floor wrapping a pt.'s legs after having washed them in her tub, 4 women from her Holy-Roller Church crowded in the bathroom door....one of them said, "Nurse? Have you been saved?" I answered without missing a beat, "Yeas, ma'am, washed in the blood of the lamb." You have to understand that being a Yankee from a dry congregational background, at the time I was merely taking on camouflage. When one of the ladies said to me, "It's a good thing, because if you weren't, we'd have had to pray for you and convert you right here and now!" I laughed, while thinking to myself "THE HELL YOU WOULD ,YOU OLD SO +SO!". And when anybody asks what am I ? I say, "My father was Lutheran, my mother was presbyterian, the congregational church was across the street, so that's where we went. I went to a catholic nursing school and took care of a jewish couple for four years. I'd have to say I'm pretty ecumenical. And since many of my patients are listening to church on the radio or TV when I'm taking care of them, I'd say I hear more sermons every Sunday than someone who just attends church!" Most of the time everyone is totally disarmed and smiling by the time I'm through with my cheerful defense!

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not so ironic. we're nurses -- most of the patients we encounter are there for some physical problem. for spiritual issues, it would be more appropriate to seek out other venues.

maybe nursing school has changed a lot since you went, because we are being taught that a patients spiritual beliefs/religion (if any) are foundational to their attitudes about health, illness and the likelihood of success for many interventions.

the point remains though, don't be scared of a person's religion...it's got a far lower likelihood of hurting you than the mdro the patient in bed 9 is hosting.

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I tell them graciously that I have my own place of worship but if I ever decide to change, I will look them up.

I'm not a nurse yet, but I am waiting tables while I finish up pre-reqs and get into nursing school and this is what I always say when guests witness to me.

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so, i've been actively practicing for about 9 months now on a med-surge unit. among the motivating factors for my moving into the field of nursing was the ability to help people. i'm not what most would call a devoutly religious person, but i do believe in a higher being, and try my best to do the right thing in most situations.

 

my problem? when that patient decides to try and witness to me, and begins to delve into whether i've found and accepted our saviour, jesus christ? and, we have a wonderful church, you should come! please, seasoned colleagues, throw me some lines to gracefully deflect the well intentioned?

 

(i'm perfectly happy to conduct my conversations spiritually at home, away from: a room full of often false people, constantly trying to sell me the newest study guide... or seeking 10+% of my hard-earned check while i struggle to maintain my financial obligations....or monday-morning quarterbacking my life that they know nothing about....)

 

as always, i look forward to everyone's input :)

people that act that way really make me sad and mad at the same time....god is jesus, but he wants 100%of your heart, not 10% of your hard earned $$$$. rmbr in the bible he knocked over the changetables in the church????

gosh! that saddens me:(

i'm so sorry....when ppl take that to that level it's forcing their beliefs onto someone. it says in the bible that god will come to everyone individually and reveal himself to them. you either accept or reject him when that time comes..it's not for us to cram down someone's throat....

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