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It's been so long since we've been able to talk politics here.  The government shutdown draaaaaags on.  What are your thoughts on this?  Ok-I'll go first.  I think it's Trump throwing a temper tantrum over not getting his way about the wall, and he has taken his toys and gone home.  He had 2 years in a Republican held Congress to get this approved, so why is it such an emergency now?  I think it's unethical to hold government workers and their families hostage over this issue, and that doesn't even take into account all of the peripheral businesses and employees who are affected by the shutdown.  It's bad for the country, pure and simple.  

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They had control of the congress and presidency for two years so why hasn't this issue been addressed?  The wall could have practically been built by now.  

Republicans in congress are afraid to stand up to Trump on this issue because they are afraid of tearing their own party apart.  Well, perhaps their party does need some shaking up.  But the Republican base that supports Trump apparently is more powerful and puts the fear of not being re-elected into their head that their silence is deafening.

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Yeah, pretty much what BCgrad and Tweety wrote. 

I live near Puget Sound and the Canadian border, which means many of my neighbors in the Coast Guard and Border Patrol are feeling the pain, not to mention the TSA folks at our airport. Local food banks are stepping up and local credit unions are offering interest-free loans to help tide people over.

Reading about the damage being done to National Parks is very disheartening, not to mention Federal contractors and other workers like cab and Uber drivers losing work. All for a stupid vanity wall. 

I think there is more to Republicans not standing up than just party loyalty. I think many of them took money from Russian sources, or are being blackmailed, or both. 

 

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The legislators will be personally affected and inconvenienced by TSA slow downs, that may inspire some of them, sadly before the ridiculous burden on the workers does. 

I am very uncomfortable with the guy, who has from time to time sounded very much like a Russian agent, just keeping our government shutdown over lies, misrepresentation, and fabricated crisis. Perhaps he should just watch TV while others make the decisions until we figure out what the hell is going on with Trump. 

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Agree with all of you.

I have called Missing Mitch McConnell's office, twice, and called Rand Paul's office.

I think it is embarrassing to live in a country, where one moron can shut down the government, and leave a nation in total dysfunction, with government workers living off of a food pantry.

Disgusting and embarrassing.

But hey, elect a clown, expect a circus.

What we got here folks, is a five-ring circus.

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6 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

This nation needs to Wake Up!!

 

Indeed. The fact that those bearing the brunt of this aren't the ones unable to reach an agreement (mostly thinking of one name here) but the everyday citizens speaks volumes. It shouldn't be the working class suffering from lack of paychecks, which is going to have so many ripple effects. I will say that seeing the articles of restaurants offering free meals, places offering free pet food, and so on, is definitely heartening in that we still care about our fellow countrymen (and countrypets) but it shouldn't be necessary.

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Six GOP senators vote to end shutdown without wall funding

 01/24/19 03:45 PM EST

Six Republican senators crossed the aisle on Thursday to vote with Democrats and advance a stopgap measure that would end the partial government shutdown without additional funding for President Trump's proposed border wall.

GOP Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Susan Collins (Maine), Cory Gardner(Colo.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Mitt Romney(Utah) voted to advance the continuing resolution, which would have fully reopened the government and funded it through Feb. 8. 

The measure fell short of the 60 votes needed to break a filibuster...

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/426852-six-gop-senators-vote-to-advance-stopgap-without-wall-funding 

 

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The Georgia guy surprised me as that's Trump country.   It's getting out of hand as more and more people and programs are hurting.  The rich in the government just can't relate to the common person.  Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, whose estimated worth is 700 million, say he doesn't understand why people just don't get loans for basic necessities.  

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/commerce-secretary-ross-says-unpaid-federal-workers-should-just-get-a-loan.html

I understand finances 101 and people should scrimp, not live extravagantly and save for a rainy day when things get up or they might not get paid.   But for some of us that rainy day keepings coming like myself in the form of car repairs, home repairs, dental bills.  Some good hard working people that are savers have had life events and just can't continue to not get paid.  

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Sorry for the typos.  Wish the edit function stayed just a little bit longer.  Guess I'm going to have to preview BEFORE hitting submit.  LOL

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39 minutes ago, Tweety said:

The Georgia guy surprised me as that's Trump country.   It's getting out of hand as more and more people and programs are hurting.  The rich in the government just can't relate to the common person.  Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, whose estimated worth is 700 million, say he doesn't understand why people just don't get loans for basic necessities.  

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/24/commerce-secretary-ross-says-unpaid-federal-workers-should-just-get-a-loan.html

I understand finances 101 and people should scrimp, not live extravagantly and save for a rainy day when things get up or they might not get paid.   But for some of us that rainy day keepings coming like myself in the form of car repairs, home repairs, dental bills.  Some good hard working people that are savers have had life events and just can't continue to not get paid.  

Regardless of unseen events, many people affected by this shutdown do not make enough to save for that rainy day. I think of all the small businesses in the DC area, like cafes, food trucks, etc. who have had to let people go or cut hours due to the shut down.  It's really despicable that this shutdown is continuing.  Shame on Washington, and especially, shame on Trump. 

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