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26 minutes ago, SC_RNDude said:

For me, I’ll have to wait for him to testify before deciding if he is believable or not.

i doubt it’ll change my mind.  I’m sure I’ll still go with the BP Chief who served under Obama who believes additional wall to what we have already, along with other border security methods, is needed.

 

 

I'm surprised you agree with anyone associated with Obama.

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5 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

...   The administration actually began putting together a plan for border security very early in the administration, and originally (over a year ago) wanted a lot more money.   https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/border-security-billions-trump-wall/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

Trump asks for $33B for border, including $18B for wall

The Trump administration has revealed its master plan for securing the border -- and it's going to cost $33 billion.

Of that total, $18 billion will be required for President Donald Trump's long-promised border wall, according to Customs and Border Protection documents obtained by CNN that were sent to lawmakers on Capitol Hill.

The remaining $15 billion would cover technology, personnel and readiness, the document says...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/05/politics/border-security-billions-trump-wall/index.html?no-st=1548611804 

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I don't see the border wall fight as being about money. It really isn't.

Nancy Pelosi has made it clear that she won't give Trump $1 for his wall.

The wall is a metaphor.

And we all know that Trump is very comfortable with undocumented immigrants.

He married one. He employs them at all of his facilities. 

The NY Times has a story today, about undocumented workers being fired at his facilities in the last month. Some of these folks are former Employees of the Month.

The Post profiled an undocumented worker, who ironed DJTs underwear.

This fight has never been about money.

More to the point, the Times has a short story about two proposals floating around Congress to prevent future shutdowns.

With Pain Still Fresh, Lawmakers Make Push To Outlaw Shutdowns

I heard about the Republican proposal a week or so ago on NPR, but the Democratic proposal was new to me.

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Do you think that Trump will refuse to sign legislation to prevent government shutdown? 

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46 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

I don't see the border wall fight as being about money. It really isn't.

Nancy Pelosi has made it clear that she won't give Trump $1 for his wall.

The wall is a metaphor.

And we all know that Trump is very comfortable with undocumented immigrants.

He married one. He employs them at all of his facilities. 

The NY Times has a story today, about undocumented workers being fired at his facilities in the last month. Some of these folks are former Employees of the Month.

The Post profiled an undocumented worker, who ironed DJTs underwear.

This fight has never been about money.

More to the point, the Times has a short story about two proposals floating around Congress to prevent future shutdowns.

With Pain Still Fresh, Lawmakers Make Push To Outlaw Shutdowns

I heard about the Republican proposal a week or so ago on NPR, but the Democratic proposal was new to me.

I guess I don’t understand your point.  The wall is a metaphor for what?  You don’t think he wants the wall simply because many of his voters want it?

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2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Do you think that Trump will refuse to sign legislation to prevent government shutdown? 

Well, if Congress is serious, on both sides, an override of his veto would be in order.

He may sign it because it allows him to save face.

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

I guess I don’t understand your point.  The wall is a metaphor for what?  You don’t think he wants the wall simply because many of his voters want it?

No, I don't think he cares that much about it.

Again, he has a long, and intimate history with the undocumented.

Of course, I am not in the man's head. I have no idea whether or not he is using this issue, as he did in the midterms, to bolster himself, i e, 2020 reelection campaign.

He could face a challenge from within his party.

 

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2 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

I guess I don’t understand your point.  The wall is a metaphor for what?  You don’t think he wants the wall simply because many of his voters want it?

No, I don't think he cares that much about it.

Again, he has a long, and intimate history with the undocumented.

Of course, I am not in the man's head. I have no idea whether or not he is using this issue, as he did in the midterms, to bolster himself, i e, 2020 reelection campaign.

He could face a challenge from within his party.

 

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Sorry for double post.

Don't know how it happened.

Glitch, I guess.

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Per the Congressional Budget Office, the economy lost $11 billion during the government shutdown.  I fail to see how that was of benefit to this country.

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23 minutes ago, BCgradnurse said:

Per the Congressional Budget Office, the economy lost $11 billion during the government shutdown.  I fail to see how that was of benefit to this country.

But Larry Kudlow doesn't agree. 

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