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You are reading page 19 of Gay Marriage. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

I feel that the state should be allowed to marry any two consenting adults, but that a church doesn't have to marry anybody if they don't feel comfortable with it. I strongly believe in a separation of church and state, and while a church I go to may not agree with gay marriage, I have no problem with two people being happy together. There are so few happy people in the world, why try to make people miserable on purpose?

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i just want to clarify one last time for those that might be miss-understanding my previous two posts, as some have commented against my last two posts, which i didn't mention anything regarding gay marrieage.

the 1st & 2nd post i made, no one commented on, nor had a problem with it.

the 3rd post i made-i was clarifying what i meant when i used the quote on my 3rd post: "what's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong". i didn't say anything about gay marriage on that third post either. i wasn't mentioning that gay was wrong and it should be called wrong because it was wrong to me. i was making an example by saying that if i , or you think something is right or wrong we should be able to say, i think it's right, or i think it's wrong. (pretty much talking about the poster's right to say his'her opinions, 'evangelist', about gay marriage was wrong and condemmed by god, without having pro-gay marriage poeple saying 'religion card'.) if that posters opinion is based in his'hers beliefs and those beliefs come from the bible, then so be it, we have our own beliefs about it and we fall back on them and say 'i'm pro because etc etc etc. it's not that we're playing the bible/religion card, it's just that our beliefs are from the bible since we beleive in god & the bible.

i'm not even going to go in detail about the posts that talk about what the bible says about homosexuality and how all of us can interpret it in different ways, there's no different way to interpret something when is cut & dry as those verses in the bible are on homosexuality.

this is my last post-as this can derail easily, as it already has happened, lol. i just wanted to clarify that my previous post that people were commenting about, i didnot say anything about gay marriage!

good night, yall have at it!! ;)

this bible quoting is in itself such a crock of...well, you know. the bible says "judge lest ye be judged", casting stones......people love to pick and choose which parts of the bible they want to adhere to.....there are parts of the bible that say women shouldn't wear pants, use birth contol, wear makeup and should submit and cleave to their men. and unless you are taking each "cut and dry" verse and living it, then we should not be quoting solomon.

and btw, unless you are going to have to face god for all of the "sins" of the world, people will repent on their own.

people should have the right to marry whomever they choose. period. you want to do the christian thing? pray for them, and us all.

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I am a Christian. it is my life, my soul and everything I am.

However, the Bible was written thousands of years ago, and therefore can hardly be compared to today's society. Those who read the Bible and say it puts down women, gay people etc etc are right because it does....but it was written in a time when these things were the norm...and written by humans. Flawed, broken humans. I dont believe the entire Bible is God's own word, but man's.

I believe in gay equality and that they should be able to love and marry anyone they want, just like the rest of us. Jesus said not to judge, Jesus was about loving our neighbour and brothers and sisters. God is love.

I am saddened by Christians who alienate and shun the LGBT community, because that goes against everything we are suppose to stand for.

Then again, I am a Christian who supports cannabis cultivation and use, pacifism and extreme leftist ideals *gasp!* blasphemy! So what do I know...

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Ah, dang........you had me hitting the Like button until you got to 'pacifism and extreme leftist ideals'. :lol2: The rest of your post was good though, so you can take credit for 9/10 of a Like. :D

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Viva, we know you like the leftist ideals,;) it is just the method that is in question. So it was pacifism that really got you?:sofahider

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Pacifism as it's practiced today is too extreme for my tastes, especially when young people who weren't raised by the WWII generation, and are thus far removed from that war, can so blithely criticize our country for dropping the bombs that ended it.

What's funny is, I used to be a pacifist---I protested the Vietnam War and nearly got arrested at age 12 for my pains, protested the Gulf War by holding a sign on a street corner, and yes, I protested when we switched gears from Afghanistan to Iraq after the fallout from 9/11 had died down. My default position still is against any unjust or unnecessary wars. But I'm not for turning the other cheek when we are attacked as we were at Pearl Harbor and on 9/11, and I sent two kids to fight for our nation even when I didn't feel we were in a just war. So no, I'm really not a pacifist after all.

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Pacifism as it's practiced today is too extreme for my tastes, especially when young people who weren't raised by the WWII generation, and are thus far removed from that war, can so blithely criticize our country for dropping the bombs that ended it.

Young person. Raised by WWII generation (my stepfather is in his 90s, and is a combat vet, remember). Criticizes, not blithely, but with information to back me up, our bombing innocents...in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and all points leading up to it.

I'll start another thread, rather than derail this one further. :)

Edited by ElvishDNP

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And I too will decline to comment further, although I wonder how else we could have ended WWII as swiftly and decisively.

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the peer-review process failed to identify significant, disqualifying problems witha controversial and widely publicized study that seemed to raise doubts about the parenting abilities of gay couples, according to an internal audit scheduled to appear in the november issue of the journal, social science research, that published the study.the highly critical audit, a draft of which was provided to the chronicleby the journal’s editor, also cites conflicts of interest among the reviewers, and states that “scholars who should have known better failed to recuse themselves from the review process.”

since it was published last month, the study, titled “how different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships?,” has been the subject of numerous news articles and blog posts. it has been used by opponents of same-sex marriage to make their case, and it’s been blasted by gay-rights activists as flawed and biased.

controversial gay-parenting study is severely flawed, journal's audit finds - percolator - the chronicle of higher education

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Severely flawed indeed. Some of the longest lasting couples I know are gay. Some well over 25 years together. Kids today are savvy. And all kids want two parents who love them and care for them and have their best interests at heart. Gay or not. And when you are talking about long term relationships that now have the ability to be married relationships, more power to them. If you are against gay marriage, don't get one. Best quote I have heard is "saying you are mad and against gay marriage is like being mad at someone for eating a donut cause you are on a diet and are not eating sweets". The best thing we can do for our children is by example that it is ok to be who you are--truly unconditional love.

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This is probably the right place to announce that my youngest son just accepted his boyfriend's proposal tonight as they were enjoying drinks and dinner at California Adventure. :D

My son-in-law-to-be had told me a few weeks ago that he was going to do this during their vacation trip, and of course I'm thrilled for them both. Nobody could possibly be better for my son than this gentle man, who's done more to bring Ben out of his comfort zone in nine short months than anyone had been able to do in his first 20 years of life. I'm so proud of them both and tickled pink that they've made this lifetime commitment to each other. :yeah:

What a difference a year makes........last July 16 was supposed to have been Ben's wedding to a narcissistic, obsessive little female canine; in September, he finally broke it off for good and realized that he was NEVER meant to be with a girl; in November he fell in love for only the second time in his life, and the rest, as they say, is history. :redbeathe

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Congrats Viva!! And yes, in 20 short years you raised a child to a man who found out who he is, and is loved by you that is so evident in your posts. Prayers to the children and young adults who may not have this acceptance and love. It is all about content of character, and you, my dear did an amazing job!!

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