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Rat her out. Use proof if you have it. If you dont, do it annonymously. At the very least it may make her think of her potential loses. I would also certainly report this to the State board of registry. Proof or not. It will be on file as a reference. You could also inv.olve a mentor to help with an intervention. Its a sad shame. Your FIRST responsibility is to the safety of her patients. How good a friend can she be if she treats her own husband and children with that little respect. Watch your back, sister (or brother)

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Why does a google search of your screen name bring up controlling vampire urges, erotic creative writing submissions, etc.? Coincidence?

Seems unlikely ;)

A patient with an Axis II diagnosis once said to me "I'm not trying to be a pain..."

I interrupted with: "You don't have to try. You're a natural!"

:lol2: Ain't that the truth.

I am trying. Really really trying. My husband tells me how trying I am all the time.

Poor hubby :roflmao:

I would report her to nmc if in UK or your nursing council in what ever country u are in she should be disbarred from practice not a professional nurses practice dealing in drugs and having an affair with an inmate

I guess we needed a dissenting voice in this thread to liven it up since all of us were pretty much advocating the no-drama route. Welcome to AN!

Do you really think that OP provided enough details to support the recommendation you're making? I personally don't. OP hasn't shared if s/he actually has firsthand knowledge about the things s/he allleges took place. Plus there's the fact that several posters have mentioned; if OP knew about this when it was happening but didn't report it then, OP might also be in trouble for not reporting. Reporting it after the fact reeks of some personally motivated grudge, not a professional sense of responsibility.

I don't know about the UK but here you need first hand knowledge of a crime before you report as being truthful. Did this nurse see this other nurse selling or smuggling drugs into the jail? If so why didn't she report it then?

Agreed.

What caused all this moral outrage anyway? The fact that her "best friend" is engaged in an extramarital affair of which she doesn't approve. Apparently trafficking / smuggling drugs and endangering children was OK so long as this other nurse kept her knees together.

I don't know if OP is more upset about the (alleged) extramarital affair itself or the (alledged) fact that it was with an inmate at her place of work or if it's the (alledged) fact that her friend of hers deals drugs in front of her children. Personally I literally could not care less if a coworker has an extramarital affair. As I've previously stated; I think it's their business. Make no mistake though, a corrections nurse having an affair with an inmate and doing favors for that inmate, or for that matter doing favors for an inmate without the added component of coitus :sarcastic:, is a HUGE problem. It's not a question of morality, it's a grave security risk.

Once a member of staff starts making an inmate even a small favor that the employer frowns upon, the inmate has gained leverage over the member of staff. The inmate can use that leverage to blackmail the employee into granting ever bigger favors that will pose a real risk to all employees of the facility and conceivably also to other inmates. Smartphones, drugs and weapons are some of the things that the member of staff can be coerced to bring into the jail/prison. Not good for obvious reasons. The member of staff can of course be leaned on not only by his or her lover, but also by every other inmate who gains knowledge about the goings on. And they will find out.

So if this happened and I witnessed it at my place of work, you bet I would report it. For safety reasons for myself and everyone else, but also for my coworker to protect him or her from digging themselves into an even deeper hole when meeting the escalating demands from the inmates. But now like in OP's case, after the fact and what I believe is based on secondhand information, no way I'd touch it.

PS: I Hope I never have a "best friend" who will deem it appropriate to share all my secrets with the rest of the universe via the internet.

I'm not entirely convinced that all this is real. I'm always a bit sceptical when someone's first post is as salacious as this one is. But yeah, I wouldn't want to have a best friend who aired all my dirty laundry on the internet either :sniff:

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Rat her out. Use proof if you have it. If you dont, do it annonymously. At the very least it may make her think of her potential loses. I would also certainly report this to the State board of registry. Proof or not. It will be on file as a reference. You could also inv.olve a mentor to help with an intervention. Its a sad shame. Your FIRST responsibility is to the safety of her patients. How good a friend can she be if she treats her own husband and children with that little respect. Watch your back, sister (or brother)

Would you like someone to "rat you out" if they didn't actually have any proof or firsthand knowledge of the fact? What it its not true and they were wrong? Too bad. Your career will never be the same.

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"Rat" is the correct word for making allegations without proof. It's what a sewer-dwelling cheese eater would do.

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"Rat" is the correct word for making allegations without proof. It's what a sewer-dwelling cheese eater would do.

C'mon now, Spanked- we're talking nurses, not lawyers!

Disclaimer: I personally have nothing against lawyers. For real! Some of my best friends use lawyers.

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Sorry poor terminology,

'Misprision of felony' ... The federal definition of misprision requires that, "(1) the principal committed and completed the felony alleged; (2) the defendant had knowledge of the fact; (3) the defendant failed to notify the authorities; and (4) the defendant took affirmative steps to conceal the crime of the principal."

It'll still be your ass if she gets busted and any proof you know about it surfaces... like this message board for instance.

My sister did 3 years in federal prison for a similar scenario, any indictment would still be board reportable. If it were me, I would consider my need to maintain a license and career over her need to play bad girl. If you can get her into treatment to help her and save her license do it. But "minding your own business" puts you both (and her patients) at risk.

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This would make a decent plot for a movie, but it's probably already been done.

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Doing nothing is not an affirmative step. Further we are back to 1st hand knowledge, Did she watch her friend fornicate with the inmate (sex is still not a crime)? Did she watch her friend sell or smuggle drugs? What "affirmative steps" did she take? Did she lie (silence is not a lie). Did she distract a guard of help with trafficking the drugs? It sounds like she suspects these things but she doesn't know them. Has this nurse been Impaired at work? What exactly is she going to report and to who? Idle talk is just that it proves nothing. I'm not even sure I believe this person.

Say I reported another Nurse for all of these suspicions without proof. Is she supposed to "prove" her innocence? Say you or I were accused of selling drugs or having sex with somebody besides our spouse how do we prove that we didn't? I don't beat my dog or girlfriend but I can't prove that I don't. Empty allegations are what witch-hunts are made of. If all these things happened and she felt so strongly about why didn't she report it at the time? I don't know when it looks and smells like BS its usually BS

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Wow, you also just happen to point out your best friend's husband's 'prestigious job' while you tear her down mercilessly including her 9 year job history in public.

It sounds as if you're attempting to create a legal case against your supposed 'best friend' online.

Just wondering are you his 'best friend' too?

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Wow, you also just happen to point out your best friend's husband's 'prestigious job' while you tear her down mercilessly including her 9 year job history in public.

It sounds as if you're attempting to create a legal case against your supposed 'best friend' online.

Just wondering are you his 'best friend' too?

I don't see the relevance to the length of the husband's employment, the prestige of his job or the affair either. I'm sure plenty a nurse (and MD) has had an extra-marital affair in his/her day.

OP, if your best friend was fired for trafficking heroin and/or meth into a prison, presumably her employer would have reported her to the BON when she was fired.

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Just mind your own business and keep her at very far distance.

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I personally would not continue a phoney relationship at this point. It sounds like some of these behaviors are deal breakers for you. So the question is, do you maintain your relationship as-is, end your relationship or Linda Tripp it?

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