Jump to content
jlsand jlsand (New Member) New Member

Ethical Issue - Discussion of Obese Nurses, Physicians and Patients

Weight   (342,011 Views 3,344 Comments)
2,292 Visitors; 4 Posts
If you find this topic helpful leave a comment.

You are reading page 255 of Ethical Issue - Discussion of Obese Nurses, Physicians and Patients. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

Ideally, no one should be overweight or unhealthy. But nurses are human beings, so some of us will be. The fact that you smoke (for example) doesn't mean you can't teach a patient about the benefits of smoking cessation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well here's the way I figure it, the personal life of the care provider shouldn't have any impact on patients, and isn't an issue unless you're physically putting the patient in danger.

People drink and smoke, they're both legal. So as long as you don't come to work reeking of alcohol, smoke, or are a threat to patient's well being, then don't worry about it. Illegal drugs are illegal for a reason, that would probably be something I'd worry a little bit about, I don't want the doctor in charge of my care smoking away his entire med school.

As for the big one, overweight, again that shouldn't be a worry as long as the care provider is able to safely administer care to a patient. People are overweight, and a lot of them, it's a fact of life. I myself am struggling with a few pounds to lose over the summer, and considering the fact that I start the nursing program in August, I'm fairly sure I'll gain a few as well due to the stress. Does that mean that I care any less about my patients? Does that mean that my education isn't as valid as someone in picture perfect health? No.

Patient safety is important, as well as facility regulations, but aside from that it's your life. There are numerous unhealthy lifestyle choices that everyone makes every single day, and your personal life should be separate from your job anyway.

What's so wrong about a care provider sharing information and options to someone in a similar situation? For instance, a diabetic educator who deals with diabetes, or an overweight doctor informing a patient on weight loss. They've been there, they understand more than one who is extremely healthy.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You are a woman you are already perfect, thats what I have always been told ha ha. Sorry couldnt help that one.

Such a smart man!!

If all nurses were expected to be 'perfect' then I fear for humanity. ;)

He didn't say they should be perfect, he said they should be healthy ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well i guess i got most of my answers or should i say point of views. It seems 50/50 almost.:)

It's true of course a person can teach what they don't truly believe in. The overweight nurse can teach about diet and exercise. The smoking nurse can teach about the affects of smoking, or too much drinking.

BUT, how can a nurse be compassionate about her job?? Nursing is a compassionate field for most-some could never do, nor would they want to. Nurses :nurse: are special.

It makes me think about the world we live in-a superficial world. New age this and that, believe in what you want and all is fine!

But what about the integrity part of the job-doesn't a nurse owe that to a patient. Shouldn't he/she be living or should i say striving to live a healthy lifestyle? Afterall that's what her role is-to bring the patient back to health so they can live a full life, right????

There is compromise in all professions, i just think its snuck itself in to the medical field one way or another.

It is easier to make excuses like someone mentioned before, rather than deal with the reality of what's really happening.

I think in most cases a nurse can do their job being overweight, smoking, drinking, but i think just like any other job it a nurse can become complacent.

How do you teach about health and not hear it with your very own ears???

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't see crazy schedules as an excuse to eat like crap. I think we make too many excuses for our bad habits. I'm not saying go all health crazy when it comes to food, but cut out the fast food and bacon.

I work 7p-7a, most often 11 days out of 14. After factoring in driving time, AT BEST I have 90 minutes to get done everything I need to do on a daily basis to keep going. Sometimes not even that much. Everyone who works midnights understands when I say that you can't count on getting much of anything done on the first day off of 2 or more in a row. It's impossible for me to cook meals when I'm working if I'm to get anything else done. And I don't have the time to spend a whole day cooking for the rest of the week. So, call it an excuse from your side of the fence if you want to, but from over here, I don't have any reasonable options.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I work 7p-7a, most often 11 days out of 14. After factoring in driving time, AT BEST I have 90 minutes to get done everything I need to do on a daily basis to keep going. Sometimes not even that much. Everyone who works midnights understands when I say that you can't count on getting much of anything done on the first day off of 2 or more in a row. It's impossible for me to cook meals when I'm working if I'm to get anything else done. And I don't have the time to spend a whole day cooking for the rest of the week. So, call it an excuse from your side of the fence if you want to, but from over here, I don't have any reasonable options.

The way one eats is virtually all that matters in staying slim. The exercise is pretty much what your body tells the food what to do in your body (i.e., repair and build muscle after some heavy squats or burn into oblivion after cardio).

It is quite possible to eat 500 calories of salad or 500 calories from a cheeseburger, regardless of the time factor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I work 7p-7a, most often 11 days out of 14. After factoring in driving time, AT BEST I have 90 minutes to get done everything I need to do on a daily basis to keep going. Sometimes not even that much. Everyone who works midnights understands when I say that you can't count on getting much of anything done on the first day off of 2 or more in a row. It's impossible for me to cook meals when I'm working if I'm to get anything else done. And I don't have the time to spend a whole day cooking for the rest of the week. So, call it an excuse from your side of the fence if you want to, but from over here, I don't have any reasonable options.

It is an excuse. You have time to be on allnurses, do you not? I never said you need to cook meals for an entire week, so I don't know where that came from.

I don't eat home cooked meals for lunch or dinner every day, or whatever you want to call it. I don't sit for hours to cook, I don't enjoy cooking period. I usually take 5 minutes to throw some chicken and veggies in the crock pot on low so its pretty much done when I get home. It takes 2 minutes to make a sandwich or even 5 to heat up a lean cuisine or something along that line when you're at work. It takes 5 minutes or less to throw together a salad. It takes less time to throw together a meal not full of saturated fat than it does to run to McDonald's. Thats my point.

I have a friend who has the same mindset as you and has the same exact schedule as you. She has gained a ton of weight, has horrible blood pressure, and is having a hard time having children even on fertility meds. Her 5 year old daughter is gaining an unhealthy amount of weight and her husband has gained at least 60 lbs in the past 6 months, and he was never really slim to begin with.

So keep your excuse, because I find it unreasonable, all because you have a misconception for how long it takes to throw together a meal that's healthier than a quarter pounder.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So keep your excuse, because I find it unreasonable, all because you have a misconception for how long it takes to throw together a meal that's healthier than a quarter pounder.

A little harsh, but true, we have live in a fat nation-we're the worst as a matter of fact-we rank the most unhappiest nation!! that's horrible, the most blessed but the most saddest.

We have to realize just as i have myself, there is really no excuses why we are fat. We continue to be overweight because we choose not to change our lifestyles.

Nevertheless, we are all human and are not perfect but if we have in our willpower to change the things we need to change then so be it.:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have just written a blog entry about obesity and how It is almost impossible to keep the weight off-everybody can diet and I am sure we all have but.........

https://allnurses.com/nursing-blogs/hello-my-name-483376.html

I have come to the point that I dont want to diet anymore! I have done every diet known to mankind and I always put the weight back on.

I dont want to spend the rest of my life struggling and strugging to be strong

When I am dieting I am miserable, I know I cannot cheat not one time ever.

I cannot stop dieting for one day because if I do it feels so good then I return to my bad ways. So the only way ever for me to be slim is to be on a constant diet and never ever cheat-and I know I cannot do it!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've kept off the weight I lost several years ago, except for the few pounds of muscle I regained lifting heavy weights, but I am still the same size that I was when I was at my lowest weight 5-6 years ago. I'm not super-strong in willpower; I drastically changed my mindset towards food, kicked out excuses, and rejected the status quo. :down:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I cannot stop dieting for one day because if I do it feels so good then I return to my bad ways. So the only way ever for me to be slim is to be on a constant diet and never ever cheat-and I know I cannot do it!!!

You are wrong. You cannot go into dieting with a perfectionist attitude, where it's all or nothing. You don't say to hell with cleaning your house simply because you didn't make you bed one day, so why should you say to hell with dieting because you ate according to your old ways once (or twice or whatever)?

I'll tell you what else...when I dieted, I had to feed the fat girl that was still inside of me. In fact, when I would do this every once in a while while dieting, I'd normally drop weight after the big eating. It was weird, but it worked. Interestingly, as my weight dropped, so did the amount of food I ate on those occasions when I fed the fat girl inside of me. I set out to eat as much as I wanted, so it was an unintentional thing.

I used to throw up my hands in failure if I messed up even once when I tried to diet. Then I changed one behavior. If I ate a whole bunch of bad stuff during lunch, I no longer said, "What's the use of dieting, since I'm screwing up?" I instead said, "I'll eat a light supper tonight."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
You are wrong. You cannot go into dieting with a perfectionist attitude, where it's all or nothing. You don't say to hell with cleaning your house simply because you didn't make you bed one day, so why should you say to hell with dieting because you ate according to your old ways once (or twice or whatever)?

Respectfully responding I am not wrong I am talking about myself and I know myself very well I am 48 and have been dieting many times over the course of my life and I just cannot break my diet once or else I go back to my old habits-I dont state that this is the right mind set or else I would be slim by now I am saying how it is for me.

Maybe I need hypnoses or something to change the way I think-I dont know

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
×