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Under Section 6103g of the Internal Revenue Act of 1954, the President may submit a request for the IRS to provide him (or a designated employee) with "return information with respect to any taxpayer." That request must include "the specific reason why the inspection or disclosure is requested".

Although I see it as VERY unlikely that Obama would do so.

I see you cut and pasted a portion of Snopes so I'll cut and paste the portion you left out.

A couple questions on the President's comments in Philadelphia about Trump's taxes. Is it fair to take from the fact that he brought this up I believe twice in the speech, that the President believes that it's important or valuable for votes to have information on Trump's taxes, or to see those returns before they go to the polls in November? — under Section 6103G, the President — 'Upon written request by the President, signed by him personally, the Treasury Secretary can furnish to the President or to employees of the White House Office the President may designate a return or return information with respect to any taxpayer named in such a request.” And the section goes on to say that as long as you or others have the personal written direction of the President, you're free to go ahead and release that. So would the President feel this is so important that he'd be willing to get those returns from the Treasury and make them public if voters really should have this information by November?

A: Well, I've not heard of this potential option. I think it is rather unlikely that the President would order something like that. And so if there's more on this with regard to our position about the interpretation of the statute, we'll consult the lawyers and let you know ... I think there are a couple of principles here. Certainly one thing that is important and certainly something that's been prioritized in this administration is making sure that the work of the IRS is not affected with even the appearance of political influence. And in this regard, obviously the President has made clear that he's a strong supporter of Secretary Clinton in the presidential race.

I think the second thing, though, Josh, is this — no other presidential nominee in either party has ever been compelled to release their tax returns. They've all done so voluntarily. There's been no reason to resort to obscure sections of the tax code to try to find a reason to force them to release these tax returns. Candidates for at least a generation now — again, in both parties — have voluntarily released these tax returns and made them public.

And the President feels — I think made the point yesterday that the fact that there is one nominee who won't voluntarily make them public I think is something the American people should consider as they evaluate their choices for President of the United States.

While it seems likely that President Obama could obtain and release Donald Trump's tax returns, whether he could so legally is not so certain. Under Section 6103g of the Internal Revenue Act of 1954, the President may submit a request for the IRS to provide him (or a designated employee) with "return information with respect to any taxpayer." That request must include "the specific reason why the inspection or disclosure is requested":

(g) Disclosure to President and certain other persons

(1) In general

Upon written request by the President, signed by him personally, the Secretary shall furnish to the President, or to such employee or employees of the White House Office as the President may designate by name in such request, a return or return information with respect to any taxpayer named in such request. Any such request shall state —

(A) the name and address of the taxpayer whose return or return information is to be disclosed,

(B) the kind of return or return information which is to be disclosed,

© the taxable period or periods covered by such return or return information, and

(D) the specific reason why the inspection or disclosure is requested.

However, that section of the U.S. Code only authorizes the President to obtain and examine tax returns, not to publicly disclose them. Presumably the rules regarding confidentiality stated at the beginning of that section would still apply, even to the President:

Returns and return information shall be confidential, and except as authorized by this title —

(1) no officer or employee of the United States shall disclose any return or return information obtained by him in any manner in connection with his service as such an officer or an employee or otherwise or under the provisions of this section.

 

A separate IRS document [PDF] reiterates that the bulk of tax records are considered highly confidential, noting that a President could access them but:

Unless otherwise specifically authorized, tax returns and return information may not be disclosed by individuals who have access to them. IRC 6103 defines the terms "tax return" and "return information" very broadly to include just about everything concerned with an individual's or organization's reporting and paying of federal taxes. However, "tax returns" and "return information" may be disclosed under limited circumstances.

Various IRS rulings pertaining to the disclosure of information under numerous similar tax code clauses uniformly cite parties (such as states) granted the legal ability to request such information [PDF], but those documents also stipulate that the taxpayer's consent is required for any other disclosure:

Additionally, even if he requested but didn't release Donald Trump's tax returns, the President would still be required to file a report stating that he had done so and explaining the reason(s) why:

Within 30 days after the close of each calendar quarter, the President and the head of any agency requesting returns and return information under this subsection shall each file a report with the Joint Committee on Taxation setting forth the taxpayers with respect to whom such requests were made during such quarter under this subsection, the returns or return information involved, and the reasons for such requests.

 

Given that Donald Trump is under no obligation to release his tax returns, and President Obama likely has no legal authority to publicly release them (or justification for examining them), it's not likely that we'll be seeing them unless the GOP candidate himself chooses to show them to us.

Here is a picture of one of Trump's returns.

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When you have stockholders it is other's people money. That is one of the reasons for becoming a corporation. What do you think stocks and bonds are?

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and? It is his job to deal with finances with running a business, obviously he is not financing his own projects. What is the point?

They are really showing their ignorance about corporations!

Bet these were the same people who were laughing when Romney said ‘corporations are people' because they were not smart enough to know about corporate personhood even though the supreme court decision about that was around since just after the civil war.

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Interesting, isn't it? Feeding, clothing and sheltering children with other people's money is baaaad. But losing other people's money (while paying yourself millions), as he did in Atlantic city, makes Trump .... what? A hero? A business genius? What would Trump's casino investors have to say about that?

Yup - definitely a values election.

A shareholder or stockholder is an individual or institution (including a corporation) that legally owns a share of stock in a public or private corporation. Shareholders may be referred to as members of a corporation. People buy stocks of their own free will. Stockholders elect corporation officials.

If you hate this capitalist type thing maybe a nice communist country would be a better fit for you. People have choices on whether they buy stock or not. Not like taxpayers being gouged by Obama for trillions.

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He said it.

Why talk about this and refuse to discuss the allegation that he used other peoples donations to his charitable foundation to pay court ordered donation as settlement of lawsuits?

Why refuse to provide any one year's taxes?

Especially hypocritical from the guy who lied about the President's being a citizen and repeatedly personally demanded to see his birth certificate, then publicly doubted it was real. An demanded the President's high school and college transcripts.

as far as reaching settlements over a flagpole at Maralago, or displaying the American flag and then settling with an agreement to pay to a charity, we could easily assume how the disbursement happened would be tended to by lawyers, financiers. The day to day dealings is likely managed by knowledgeable people that paid the debts. I think to rely on stories by the WSJ or NY Post is just asking for answers to stories that are full of mistruths.

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So you are saying Bill Clinton going on a convicted pedophile's plane over 26 times does not matter but Trumps tax returns do? LOL!!!

You do realize the plane was called "Lolita Express” due to sexual activity with minors taking place on the plane don't you?

It does not matter to me in this election. That's Bill Clinton, not Mrs. Clinton and when did I mention Trump's tax's returns and their importance? If you reread my posts, you'll see a more moderate approach that liberals actually tried to school me on.

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because Jebbie was kicked off the stage and laughed at - of course daddy will vote the other side, silly!

Like I said... Best. Election. Ever.

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Do you think we would have had this problem if Herman Cain was president? I think not. Obama has been driving in wedges between the races from the start.

In 2009 police were called to the home of Henry Louis Gates, a friend of Obama's and a professor at Harvard, after a neighbor reported a break-in (when they saw Gates struggling to enter his own home as he had to break in). Police arrived on the scene, and Gates was arrested after he became uncooperative.

According to the police report, the police arrived at the scene, went up to the front door, and asked Gates to step outside. The police, Sgt Crowley, explained he was investigating the report of a break-in in progress; as he did so, Gates opened the front door and said, "Why, because I'm a black man in America?"

Don't know about you but I would be HAPPY to see the police if they responded to me breaking into my own house as it shows the neighbors and police care.

Obama, during a press conference two days later, was asked about the incident and famously responded, 'I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”

It then came to light that Gates refused to give responding officers his identity and became belligerent with the officer on scene, Sgt. James Crowley, who arrested Gates for disorderly conduct.

When faced with criticism from law enforcement unions for his premature comments, Obama called the situation a 'teachable moment” for the country (but not himself) and invited both Gates and Crowley to the White House for a 'beer summit” to patch things up.

The punchline came when it was revealed Crowley taught a racial profiling course at the Lowell Police Academy and received high praise from officers of color that knew him.

Next is Trayvon Martin. The Trayvon Martin case is one of the most visible examples of the Obama administration's deliberate poisoning of race relations; all in coordination with the NAACP, the racial grievance industry and the corrupt leftist media. We now know that the administration had direct involvement in fanning the flames of racial discord that brought the case to the national stage. The Eric Holder-led Justice Department's Community Relations Service (CRA) was sent to Sanford, FL to help set up meetings and organize protests. Among other services, the administration arranged an escort for college students participating in a 40-mile march to "demand justice" for Trayvon. When the situation erupted, Obama then famously took the racial motif national, saying, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

Even after the jury rendered its not guilty verdict in the Zimmerman trial, Obama, once again, injected himself into the case, this time noting that "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago," and launching into a lecture on race -- despite the fact that a Martin family lawyer, Trayvon's stepmother, the Sanford police, and an investigation conducted by the FBI all concluded the case had nothing to do with race.

Next we have Mike Brown.

The police shooting that spawned Black Lives Matter and the media's love affair with race riots. Brown was confronted by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson after Brown assaulted and robbed a local store. The confrontation became physical, and at the end of it Brown was shot dead by Wilson.

Wilson was cleared of any wrong doing by both a grand jury and Eric Holder's Justice Department when both determined Brown had initiated the physical confrontation by attempting to secure Wilson's gun. The incident and the protest riots that followed were covered heavily by activist, ear-plug-happy members of media who propagated the symbolic myth of 'Hands of up, don't shoot,” a reference to Brown's supposed posture at the time of a fatal shooting (that the Washington Post deemed the biggest lie of 2015). The DOJ concluded that Brown did not have his hands up in a surrendering manner at any time during the altercation.

None of this, however, dissuaded the Obama administration from sending an official White House delegation to Brown's funeral prior to the conclusion of the investigation. Wilson was given his walking papers and forced to move his family out of Ferguson.

Next we had Alton Sterling and Philando Castile who were shot and killed by police.

But, once again, unanswered questions and open investigations didn't stop Obama from giving a late-night statement where he believed it was once again his duty to use his office to comment on two local law enforcement matters while overseas in Warsaw, Poland, where he is attending a NATO conference. He even declared he 'could not comment on the specific facts of the case” but somehow was able to declare they represented broader disparities of institutionalized racism in the country he has been in charge of for the past seven years.

As Obama concluded his statement, organized protests started up across the nation in cities — one of which was Dallas, Texas. This is where 5 police officers were killed due to Obama's actions.

Now we have riots because a black cop killed a black thug cause the thug pulled pulled a gun.

Your comment of "shooting people running away, with their hands up" has been proven to be a lie so you really should stop repeating it.

So Obama's friend's comment was Obama causing racial tension? We have a black surgeon that walked into a patient's room and she told him the clean the commode. Obama once out of all the white people standing around was handed keys to park the car. This is where comments like that stem from.

Herman Cain would have faced racism perhaps differently. He grew up in the Jim Crow south and had to drink from the "colored fountain". He made statements that getting caught up in "black power" wasn't the key to success. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/herman-cain-racism_b_1004417.html

What you see as causing racial tension and deciding the races, is what I call the cold hard to swallow truth.

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Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller resigns after ‘no racism' before Obama remarks

Donald Trump's campaign chair in a crucial Ohio county has resigned after an interview with the Guardian in which she said there was no racism in America until the election of Barack Obama...

... 'If you're black and you haven't been successful in the last 50 years, it's your own fault. You've had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

'You've had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn't have. You had all the advantages and didn't take advantage of it. It's not our fault, certainly.”

Miller added: 'I don't think there was any racism until Obama got elected. We never had problems like this ... Now, with the people with the guns, and shooting up neighborhoods, and not being responsible citizens, that's a big change, and I think that's the philosophy that Obama has perpetuated on America.”...

... Mark Munroe, the Mahoning chair for the GOP, said he immediately contacted the Trump campaign in Ohio asking for Miller to be dismissed over her 'insane comments”...

Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller resigns after ‘no racism’ before Obama remarks

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So Obama's friend's comment was Obama causing racial tension? We have a black surgeon that walked into a patient's room and she told him the clean the commode. Obama once out of all the white people standing around was handed keys to park the car. This is where comments like that stem from.

Herman Cain would have faced racism perhaps differently. He grew up in the Jim Crow south and had to drink from the "colored fountain". He made statements that getting caught up in "black power" wasn't the key to success. Herman Cain Has Become the Perfect American Racist | Huffington Post

What you see as causing racial tension and deciding the races, is what I call the cold hard to swallow truth.

Many will disagree with you. Obama has completely fanned the flames of racism. Encouraged it.

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To anyonewho watched the video in post 1497:

Do you agree with the Trump campaign manager?

She said, " 'If you're black and you haven't been successful in the last 50 years, it's your own fault. You've had every opportunity, it was given to you,” she said.

'You've had the same schools everybody else went to. You had benefits to go to college that white kids didn't have. You had all the advantages and didn't take advantage of it. It's not our fault, certainly.”

Trump campaign chair Kathy Miller resigns after ‘no racism' before Obama remarks

Why do you think she resigned?

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