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Donald Trump as GOP hopeful: Take him seriously

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Actually, they called for a boycott. From the link you provided:

A judge who belongs to a group that boycotts Trump should recuse himself.

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I guess we will have to wait and see.

Regardless, your spin and twist on the subject doesn't change the facts of the matter.

Trump wanted everyone to believe that he was an integral part of this scam which cheated people out of large sums of money. It will be going to trial and a jury will decide.

How nice that the GOP candidate...the party of family values and Christian ethics is supporting a man who cheats on his wives, cheats hard working Americans out of deserved pay, cheats hopeful people out of their savings to enrich himself in a scam, and can't seem to remember that he supported the Iraqi war before he was against it.

You said: "Trump wanted everyone to believe that he was an integral part of this scam which cheated people out of large sums of money"

Large amounts of money? Oh Really ? B.S. Show us a link with this "large amount" of money.

Do you know the difference between Donald Trump and Trump Univirsity? Do you even know what a LLC is (you keep ignoring this)?

A judge who belongs to a group that boycotts Trump should recuse himself.

Would a KKK member be a good judge to give a black man a trial.

Like I had said, initially I was for the Iraq war until the facts came out. Trump was a private citizen who did not get a government briefing like Clinton did. Clinton voted for this war.

Trumped strayed. It happens. Billy Clinton is to this day CONTINUOUSLY straying. He flew on a pedophiles aircraft, who likes little girls, at least 26 times.

Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known | Fox News

How many times has Hillary covered hos rapes? If you guess right you get a cigar.

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You said: "Trump wanted everyone to believe that he was an integral part of this scam which cheated people out of large sums of money"

Large amounts of money? Oh Really ? B.S. Show us a link with this "large amount" of money.

Do you know the difference between Donald Trump and Trump Univirsity? Do you even know what a LLC is (you keep ignoring this)?

A judge who belongs to a group that boycotts Trump should recuse himself.

Would a KKK member be a good judge to give a black man a trial.

Like I had said, initially I was for the Iraq war until the facts came out. Trump was a private citizen who did not get a government briefing like Clinton did. Clinton voted for this war.

Trumped strayed. It happens. Billy Clinton is to this day CONTINUOUSLY straying. He flew on a pedophiles aircraft, who likes little girls, at least 26 times.

Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known | Fox News

How many times has Hillary covered hos rapes? If you guess right you get a cigar.

Bill Clinton was and perhaps is a pig. I'm not quite understanding why flights he took in 2001 to 2003, 15 years ago means anything. Philandering Christians get to say "my wife and Jesus forgive me" and get a pass. With Trump it's "it happens". To me his past is a closed issue and her handling of her marriage isn't a valid reason to discredit her as a qualified candidate for President.

In Trump's case it's the candidate himself that was a liar and cheater, but still gets a pass. But in Mrs. Clinton case, it's her husband that's a liar and cheater (rape charges have fallen flat) but she gets grief. She's always wanted to keep that side of her life private and I really don't think she's defended his actions at all but has saved their marriage. Doesn't make sense to me.

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I hate to throw out the word "racist" and I rarely do. But clearly with his statements against Mexicans, refugees, and blacks he's a racist.

Black on black murders are high, but so are white on white murders...the point is?

Donald Trump's black-on-black crime tweet is wrong in so many ways - Vox

The statistics are fact. Don't write what is not true, you just make yourself look silly and uninformed.

Let's look at some crime statistics based on race. That way there is no argument. It is exactly as it is reported by the FBI.

FBI — Table 43

Remember to look at the total population and those percentages within those ranges. Look closely. Bear in mind that Hispanics were always included as white, so now Hispanics are provided their own section.

NCFS-Table.jpg

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Projecting?

Aren't you looking forward to those debates where Don Cheeto has to stand on the stage with those media people that he conned the other day in a marketing ploy for his business and answer questions about his taxes, his foundation, his anti-American remarks on Russian radio, the Trump University scam, and his lies about his baby the racist birther con? I know I am.

I wonder if his debate prep team is getting him ready with personal attacks, conspiracy theory, and wild speculation that reflects the Brietbart and Ailes influence in his campaign?

You wanna take bets on that landslide prediction?

You just cannot make this stuff up.

Hillary is so done. I cannot wait to watch the implosion. Trump will deliver. Don't worry. :yes:

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The statistics are fact. Don't write what is not true, you just make yourself look silly and uninformed.

Let's look at some crime statistics based on race. That way there is no argument. It is exactly as it is reported by the FBI.

FBI — Table 43

Remember to look at the total population and those percentages within those ranges. Look closely. Bear in mind that Hispanics were always included as white, so now Hispanics are provided their own section.

NCFS-Table.jpg

Here's a quote from the article from my year old quote post. Statistics can be funny in how people interpret them. It pays to look at some of the things driving the stats.

It is true that crime levels are much higher among black communities — nearly half of 2014 homicides were perpetrated by someone who's black, even though black people made up about 13 percent of the population that year.But the statistics are not, as conservatives often suggest, indicative of a problem with personal responsibility. Many factors drive higher crime rates in black communities, including massive economic inequality and housing policies that leave black people poorer and much more likely to live in impoverished, crime-riddled neighborhoods.

One of the causes is even the criminal justice system itself, which both underpolices and overpolices black communities. As journalist Jill Leovy argued in her recent book Ghettoside, the abhorrent levels of black-on-black homicide and the police harassment of black communities are actually two sides of the same coin:

If you want conversation and want to be listened to and taken seriously, you can leave the petty insults about my wanting to be silly and uninformed out of the conversation because it really only serves to add to an appearance of lack of credibility on your part and a desire on my part to ignore you. Then again, I can take what I dish out...you might have said "you're post makes you appear silly and uninformed" rather than what you said.

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Donald Trump Clung to ‘Birther' Lie for Years, and Still Isn't Apologetic

It was not true in 2011, when Donald J. Trump mischievously began to question President Obama's birthplace aloud in television interviews. 'I'm starting to think that he was not born here,” he said at the time.

It was not true in 2012, when he took to Twitter to declare that 'an ‘extremely credible source'” had called his office to inform him that Mr. Obama's birth certificate was 'a fraud.”

It was not true in 2014, when Mr. Trump invited hackers to 'please hack Obama's college records (destroyed?) and check ‘place of birth.'”

It was never true, any of it. Mr. Obama's citizenship was never in question.

No credible evidence ever suggested otherwise.

Yet it took Mr. Trump five years of dodging, winking and joking to surrender to reality, finally, on Friday, after a remarkable campaign of relentless deception that tried to undermine the legitimacy of the nation's first black president....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/us/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther.html?_r=0

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Here's a quote from the article from my year old quote post. Statistics can be funny in how people interpret them. It pays to look at some of the things driving the stats.

If you want conversation and want to be listened to and taken seriously, you can leave the petty insults about my wanting to be silly and uninformed out of the conversation because it really only serves to add to an appearance of lack of credibility on your part and a desire on my part to ignore you. Then again, I can take what I dish out...you might have said "you're post makes you appear silly and uninformed" rather than what you said.

Sorry if you're offended. I believe what I wrote. For you to label someone as racist just because he disagrees with you, a liberal, does not give you the right to label someone because they have different views than you. It does not mean he is wrong. Get off of your high horse. Stop trying to throw interpretations and spin on something that Trump never said, actually said. Don't try to throw out CNN, MSNBC, or NBC "spin" on supposedly his words either. I will counter with the accurate information.

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Here's a quote from the article from my year old quote post. Statistics can be funny in how people interpret them. It pays to look at some of the things driving the stats.

If you want conversation and want to be listened to and taken seriously, you can leave the petty insults about my wanting to be silly and uninformed out of the conversation because it really only serves to add to an appearance of lack of credibility on your part and a desire on my part to ignore you. Then again, I can take what I dish out...you might have said "you're post makes you appear silly and uninformed" rather than what you said.

I did not post statistics from a random source, but a government source. Nice try. Going back to my prior statements, when you post something that can be interpreted as fodder and silliness, then don't be hurt when you are called out for it. Ignore me or not, doesn't create any ill feelings for me.

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I did not post statistics from a random source, but a government source. Nice try. Going back to my prior statements, when you post something that can be interpreted as fodder and silliness, then don't be hurt when you are called out for it. Ignore me or not, doesn't create any ill feelings for me.

Fair enough. Actually, I went back and reread what you said and I must have misread it at first as "just to make yourself look silly and uninformed" as if you were accusing me of deliberately wanting to look silly. However, that's not what you said, you said I look silly and uniformed. That's o.k. with me when it's put that way. I've said the same thing to other people, so I can take what I dish out. No problem.

I really don't believe that you're sorry that I might have been offended.

Back to the topic, I too stand by what I posted, that statistics are indeed facts and I'm not arguing with them, but what are the driving forces behind those statistics? Is it poverty, racism, internalized racism? The fact was at the time when someone is trying to address white cop on black crime, it's not appropriate to try to divert the subject to "what about black on black crime or that blacks commit more crimes?". OK...now what about police brutality.

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Sorry if you're offended. I believe what I wrote. For you to label someone as racist just because he disagrees with you, a liberal, does not give you the right to label someone because they have different views than you. It does not mean he is wrong. Get off of your high horse. Stop trying to throw interpretations and spin on something that Trump never said, actually said. Don't try to throw out CNN, MSNBC, or NBC "spin" on supposedly his words either. I will counter with the accurate information.

I will stay on my high horse and I have the right to label and offer my opinion about someone with different views than mine. If I think someone is acting racist I say so. I usually source moderate sources and not extreme leftist press. Of course some people think all media is leftist except for Fox.

However, by all means counter with what you feel is accurate information and we can talk. That's what this board is all about. I love talking politics. There aren't many, if any, instances where I don't respect someone's right to have and express an opinion different than mine.

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Fair enough. Actually, I went back and reread what you said and I must have misread it at first as "just to make yourself look silly and uninformed" as if you were accusing me of deliberately wanting to look silly. However, that's not what you said, you said I look silly and uniformed. That's o.k. with me when it's put that way. I've said the same thing to other people, so I can take what I dish out. No problem.

I really don't believe that you're sorry that I might have been offended.

Back to the topic, I too stand by what I posted, that statistics are indeed facts and I'm not arguing with them, but what are the driving forces behind those statistics? Is it poverty, racism, internalized racism? The fact was at the time when someone is trying to address white cop on black crime, it's not appropriate to try to divert the subject to "what about black on black crime or that blacks commit more crimes?". OK...now what about police brutality.

ok, agreed on above.

I do think there's a huge racial disparity and overtone in this country - made worse by Obama. I dealt with high schools being shut down in the 90's due to racial issues in a midwestern-ish state - and our current climate is FAR worse now. I'm not saying there aren't bad cops, as there are bad people everywhere in authority. Judges, teachers, PRIESTS, you name it. I think ultimately following the law and not being confrontational is one piece of the information. In MOST instances (obviously not all and there are those bad ones, again, that are out there and run rogue) if people are following the law and instructions, then what is the issue. I do not live on the other side of this, so I don't have first hand knowledge, so I can't speak to personal knowledge. Of course poverty is a huge component. Lack of jobs, healthcare, etc can only add to the issue of crime. Education, strong family leadership, JOBS, but a community has to want to be better. Law enforcement has to police - see what happens when the police cannot do their job. What happens to those people that are business owners when looting happens? There are losers on all sides. I think fanning the flames of racism is all that Obama, Lynch, and Holder have only made our country worse for race relations. Hiring people based on skin color is reprehensible. Ridiculous. Anyone should agree with this! Just as hiring someone based on gender is ridiculous.

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