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I'm not sure why you feel the need to point out to me it's the tradition when I said it's the tradition. Even so, you now people are salivating at the chance to use it against him is what I'm saying.

Obviously, I don't need it, he's failed the interview without it. As far as disqualifying, his fans don't need it. He's pointed out they'll vote for him no matter disqualifying behavior he engages in. It's amazing that a people that criticized Mrs. Obama for showing her shoulders in public have an amazing tolerating for b.s. from him.

I wouldn't dismiss it all as mere prurient muckraking, though. We already know that he's been angling for years to do deals in Russia, which puts his bromance with Putin in a whole new light, in my opinion. In addition to the natural attraction of one bully for another, Trump's own son admitted that business success in Russia depends on who you know and you can't get much more powerful than Putin in that part of the world.

Knowing the extent of his various financial involvements are pretty central to understanding where his policy decisions are actually coming from. Business types call it due diligence.

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We have no evidence that Trump is a successful business man. The one thing that might be evidence of his success would be his tax returns and he refuses to release them like other candidates have and do.

Obama has it in his authority to release Trump's tax returns. He should do so.

No proof Trump is successful? We must be imagining all his assets right?

Have King Obama release Trump's tax returns in violation of law?!

There is no law which requires candidates to release their return.

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OK, we can disagree. On a related, but slightly off topic discussion I found these two pieces very interesting.

FWIW I have zero sympathy for these journalists who failed to see what was obvious to so many of us.

A mea culpa on Iraq by pro-war journalist Johann Hari - World Socialist Web Site

Where Are The Media's Iraq War Boosters 1 Years Later?

Once again a democrat has seem to forgotten that Hillary and her Democrats voted an AYE when it came to invading Iraq.

Before you blame false reports on it Clinton and a number of Democrats even voted WITHOUT reading the report:

Records: Senators who OK'd war didn't read key report - CNN.com

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Obama could have and should have released his own transcripts long ago, but of course, he never did.

When it came to vet Obama the media covered for him to the extreme.

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I assume you mean school grades?

Has any candidate provided their grades for the public to see?

Has he demanded Secretary Clinton's grades?

Why did candidate Trump only demand President Obama provide his birth certificate and school transcripts?

He hasn't provided any of what he demanded of President Obama

Here is Trump's birth certificate:

Donald Trump Birth Certificate - ABC News

Trump is a graduate of the prestigious Wharton Business School at the University of Pennsylvania. The average GPA at University of Pennsylvania is 3.9.

The average SAT score composite at University of Pennsylvania is a 2163 on the old 2400 SAT scale. On the new 1600 SAT, this corresponds to an average SAT score of 1500.

This Year's University of Pennsylvania Admission Requirements

As for Obama's college records he bought that on himself for claiming he had a 3.7 GPA. If Obama had a 3.7 GPA at Columbia, then why did he graduate without honors? Why is there no public evidence that he made Columbia's Dean's List, which required only a 3.33 GPA in any semester? Why hasn't Obama sought to collect (at least for charity) the million-dollar bet from his classmate, Wayne Allyn Root, that Obama had a sub-3.5 GPA at Columbia?

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I'm nearly certain he brought it up right after the long form birth certificate was made public.

No it was Obama's claim of having a 3.7 GPA. In his book, "Barack Obama: The Story", Obama is quoted as saying that his grade point average at Columbia was an impressive 3.7

If Obama had a 3.7 GPA at Columbia, then why did he graduate without honors? Why is there no public evidence that he made Columbia's Dean's List, which required only a 3.33 GPA in any semester? Why hasn't Obama sought to collect (at least for charity) the million-dollar bet from his classmate, Wayne Allyn Root, that Obama had a sub-3.5 GPA at Columbia?

"An (anonymous) Columbia official who told this (anonymous) Columbia alumnus that Obama, 'as best could be determined after sorting through the incompletes, had a GPA of 2.6” while at Columbia."

Obama's Columbia GPA

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Essentially, this is a job interview.

We the people (HEAVILY influenced by the media) have narrowed it down to 2 major candidates and 2 minor candidates.

The people/employer have requested the tax returns of candidates for decades now, it is one way to examine the financial ethics and judgement of someone. The people currently have one candidate who says we should believe that he wouldn't lie to us but he refuses to show his requested tax returns. He lied to us about why he can't show us his tax returns.

Where does it end?

Maybe it ends right here with this election.

Perhaps the people will determine that they really don't care if someone refuses to provide the documents they, as the potential employer, have requested and lies about why.

If Trump is elected there is precedent for that practice to cease altogether.

What has Trump shown us which demonstrates his capacity to govern a nation? To make compassionate or altruistic decisions? Where is HIS evidence that HE is fit to serve. A resume of being an unethical and greedy businessman does not mean that one has any capacity to serve or govern. Bossing people around and running cons is not the recipe for successful politics or governance.

So far, he has given us bluster, criticism of our military, our military leadership, our red star families, and the general idea that America is not great. He spoke some of these things on a Russian radio program and yet many of the very same people who despise the Dixie Chicks give that deplorable conduct a pass.

I wouldn't hire this guy on a bet.

Would you release your tax records to a hostile media while you are undergoing a tax audit? Here is proof from the leftest CNN about the audit:

Trump campaign releases letter confirming IRS audit - CNNPolitics.com

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Those things what will affect their presidency in my opinion. In Trumps case he should release his taxes since his main claim to fame, and what he often states, is that he is a highly successful businessman and yet has not provided any evidence of that.

In the total absence of a public record, and because he himself uses his alleged success in business as an example of why he would be a good president, the taxes need to be released.

Military records and transcripts employers often want to see when making hiring decisions. Are we not deciding who to hire for president? I don't personally care about transcripts though. Military record for sure, it's public service.

Tax records are not privileged information.

Wrong AGAIN.

Try to keep up with things rather than making things up:

6 U.S. Code § 6103 - Confidentiality and disclosure of returns and return information

(a) General ruleReturns and return information shall be confidential, and except as authorized by this title— (1) no officer or employee of the United States,

(2) no officer or employee of any State, any local law enforcement agency receiving information under subsection (i)(1)© or (7)(A), any local child support enforcement agency, or any local agency administering a program listed in subsection (l)(7)(D) who has or had access to returns or return information under this section or section 6104©, and

(3) no other person (or officer or employee thereof) who has or had access to returns or return information under subsection (e)(1)(D)(iii), subsection (k)(10), paragraph (6), (10), (12), (16), (19), (20), or (21) of subsection (l), paragraph (2) or (4)(B) of subsection (m), or subsection (n), shall disclose any return or return information obtained by him in any manner in connection with his service as such an officer or an employee or otherwise or under the provisions of this section. For purposes of this subsection, the term 'officer or employee” includes a former officer or employee.

Rest is at: 26 U.S. Code SS 61

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Plus, there are very real questions of significant conflicts of interest for Trump, both here and abroad. Will he be deciding foreign policy based on the good of the nation or the profit to himself? Tax returns can give us insight into that as well as his truthfulness regarding his net worth and the philanthropy for which he claims credit.

Will Clinton be deciding foreign policy based on the good of the nation or the profit to the Clinton Foundation?

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We are not salivating over anything.

I don't assume there is anything in his returns to attack him with although there are people who are pretty convinced there is. Such a release should however elevate the quality of questions he is privileged to answer during this campaign.

I point out that this is a traditional request in this high profile interview because you seem to be questioning the value of the request. There are millions of voters who have not yet decided which candidate deserves their vote.

I will provide no pause in highlighting the numerous ways that this candidate has failed the interview including his refusal to provide basic documents and then lying about why.

The Democrats were more than happy to use Romney's wealth to attack him in 2012. Here is just one example of a Romney hit piece based on his income:

Investigation: Mitt Romney’s Offshore Accounts, Tax Loopholes, and Mysterious I.R.A. | Vanity Fair

If I was Trump I would release it only when the audit was finished and only after the election.

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Oh, dear - now we've done it! Talking about Trump's business activity seems to have someone's hair on fire. What are we not supposed to see here?

There's no question that Trump is corrupt. Even before the bribing of the Florida AG, Trump himself boasted about paying to play during his primary campaign. To paraphrase: they ask for money, he gives. Then, when he needs something they're there for him.

Is there any reason to think he won't be just as self-serving in the public sector as he has been in the private? His casino fiasco suggests that he won't hesitate to throw the American taxpayer under the bus if it makes him a few bucks. After all, it's standard operating procedure for a certain kind of corporate "person" (Walmart springs immediately to mind). Pay to play is this guy's middle name.

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Oh, dear - now we've done it! Talking about Trump's business activity seems to have someone's hair on fire. What are we not supposed to see here?

There's no question that Trump is corrupt. Even before the bribing of the Florida AG, Trump himself boasted about paying to play during his primary campaign. To paraphrase: they ask for money, he gives. Then, when he needs something they're there for him.

Is there any reason to think he won't be just as self-serving in the public sector as he has been in the private? His casino fiasco suggests that he won't hesitate to throw the American taxpayer under the bus if it makes him a few bucks. After all, it's standard operating procedure for a certain kind of corporate "person" (Walmart springs immediately to mind). Pay to play is this guy's middle name.

There is no question that you desperately continue slurring Trump. Once again you try to do anti-Trump propaganda while ignoring the truth. This June, a consultant who worked with Bondi's campaign told the Associated Press that Bondi had personally asked for a contribution from Trump, saying the "process took at least several weeks, from the time they spoke to the time they received the contribution."

Even the leftest Washington Post wrote a recent article that instead try to blame Trump for making it "look" like he bribed her. You are apparently forgetting he even gave Hillary money for her campaign. Was he "bribing " her?

Your statement of "he won't hesitate to throw the American taxpayer" takes being absurd to a new level. Especially since it has been PROVEN that Hillary is the queen of "pay for play"

"At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million."

Many donors to Clinton Foundation met with her at State

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