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Donald Trump as GOP hopeful: Take him seriously Part II

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Do you have videos of Clinton voters being beaten? We have dozens showing Trump supporters being beaten and assaulted by the left, with scant outrage. But if it wasn't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards.

Please point out the post where someone was saying it was o.k. that this Trump voter was beaten up. I'd like to ask that person the same question.

If there's a video of a Clinton voter being beat up by Trump fans, people would only say it's fake and staged, but yet they believe it's not staged when it's a Trump voter.

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I'm all over it when it is documented video at campaign rallies showing Trump supporters being pummeled and harassed. The left has cornered the market on hatred and incivility, and always has. They just accuse others of what they do and it is gleefully reported by a compliant and ethically challenged media.

Gotcha. This I understand and it's hard to believe things these days. There are lots of instance of minorities faking things to get attention to get people riled up. I know this.

It just seems to me that there's a filter here...when it's liberals or a Muslim, you can twist it to not believe it, but when it's a Trump voter you're all over it as truth.

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I'm all over it when it is documented video at campaign rallies showing Trump supporters being pummeled and harassed. The left has cornered the market on hatred and incivility, and always has. They just accuse others of what they do and it is gleefully reported by a compliant and ethically challenged media.

I can at least admit and agree that the left has hatred and incivility towards things they don't like. But I also clearly know that they don't have the market cornered, they are pretty neck and neck with Trump supporters. I'm a realist, trying to see things as they are and not filtered through a one sided lens.

But I will close my mind to conversing with you further. I'll even let you have the final word, which as you might know from my years here is very very hard for me. LOL

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Hopefully won't be another day of violence. This is getting old.

Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide

Trump is at least trying

His tweet:Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!

Of course his dig about the "small groups" when there are thousands is a bit off.

Trump adviser urges Obama, Clinton to speak out on protests | Fox News

As anti-Trump anger feeds protests and violence, Obama echoes appeals for unity - The Washington Post

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I will say this, that there is a lot of fear-based rhetoric out there from the left. I had to calm a friend that said Trump will take away all our rights as gay people. I just had to talk down someone that said Pence was for electrocuting gay people to make them straight (seriously).

People need to be realistic. It's one thing to be angry, and definitely is o.k. to protest Trump to give him notice that we're not going to back down, but it's another to be ridiculous.

It seems the fear is very real

After election, crisis and suicide prevention hotline calls surge - CNN.com

(CNN)In the wee hours of November 9, when the US presidential race approached its stunning end, John Draper and those he works with saw a different surprising result. The phone lines at the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline lit up in a way not seen before.

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Did you ever think we are attacked because we have the best system in the world?

I don't think that anyone who's ever made an effort to serioulsy study terrorism and its various possible motivations thinks the answer is that simple. If your assumption was true it would be very difficult to explain the fact that Muslim terrorists actually kill more Muslims than they do Westerners. It's also worth to note that just because you believe that your system is the best in the world doesn't necessarily make that a universally applicable truth. In fact it can be argued that Islamic terrorism is a reaction to the perception that the fundamentalist way of life is under attack and about to become extinct.

By the way, there are many different motivations for terrorism, some examples are ethnocentric, nationalistic and revolutionary.

Terrorists like many others make a cost/benefit analysis of their "endeavors". The U.S. is actually regarded as vulnerable to terrorism for a host of different reasons. You are considered very casualty averse and loss of life takes on a significance that's not always proportional to the event. Your economy is perception driven and as such highly vulnerable to the psychological impact of terrorism. Public opinion is considered very susceptible to psychological impact of terrorism and policy makers are considered to be very influenced by public opinion.

My degree is in Criminology so terrorism isn't my area of expertise but it is a subject that I've spent some time delving into, mostly because it is sadly, very much a part of our world today.

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Of course we can. So can everybody else. That's what keeps both sides of the left-right divide in business.

Personally I don't think the left is worse than the right when it comes to vitriol. I watch both MSNBC and FoxNews; they both traffic in sensationalized, alarmist rhetoric. The only difference I see is that MSNBC has a much better record of actually fact-checking their stories before airing them.

Finally, what do you all think about yet another election won by virtue of the unbalanced electoral college system? Where are the usual states' rights people protesting the system of one state's voters being more important than others'? Just curious.

P.S.: Congrats to the Trump crowd. I didn't believe he could do it. Can't wait to see what Bill Maher has to say! :cheeky:

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P.S.: Congrats to the Trump crowd. I didn't believe he could do it. Can't wait to see what Bill Maher has to say! :cheeky:

You know, I really don't like Bill Maher much at all but I did watch him last Friday - wanted to see the Obama interview. He did warn us that Trump was a real possibility - it was at that point I quit taking Trump as a joke. Maher was right. As to the electoral college, democrats have now won the popular vote four out of the last five elections, yet only won the presidency twice. I don't care for it.

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I just received this email:

How about we try to be nice to each other? To communicate and disagree for the purpose of sharing our knowledge, thoughts, experiences, and feelings.

I twill try to understand those who disagree with me, but cannot without the other truly sharing.

Please know if I ask a question I truly want to know.

For now on political threads I will just ignore untrue allegations and insults to a group, so If I respond to your post know it is with respect and curiosity.

Herring. I love you. I have no idea how you are able to tolerate the silly stuff but you do.

When people against my political persuasion made statements or accusations against "the left" or "the liberals" today, I asked them to be specific. None of them have. I tried. I said please and thank you on some of them.

Someone demanded how we justified a man getting beaten up for voting Trump. We all said we didn't, we thought it was wrong. That person never came back.

Another person said that she had endured Obama's administration. When I asked her what she endured, she shut up.

When I asked another poster why she thought that the hate, racism, misogyny and bigotry was coming from the left, she shut up.

When I asked the same poster that had previously complained about enduring Obama's administration why she felt scared about his executive orders she shut up.

I realize you've been doing this for a lifetime and I'm a novice. I think heaven has a medal waiting for you along with a pink fluffy seat.

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One of those people who "shut up" has felt for some time that it's just not worth trying to chew through the restraints.

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One of those people who "shut up" has felt for some time that it's just not worth trying to chew through the restraints.

Non answer. You actually don't get to say "what you endured and endured we did" if you odn't back it up. Actually you do. But nobody is lstening to you. By the by, I do remember you asking two times as an immigrant why I was here. I gave you an answer. Remember that? The next time you asked my why I voted for Obama. I told you I didn't and that I had voted for Jill Stein. I do at least have an answer for what I believe in.

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