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1 hour ago, herring_RN said:

I do not remember President Obama being racist. When did that happen? What did the president do that you remember as racist?

I'm looking forward to that response.

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2 hours ago, herring_RN said:

I do not remember President Obama being racist. When did that happen? What did the president do that you remember as racist?

He pushed the narrative that the cops were racist.

Personally, I think he is racist.  But that is a irrelevant argument at this point.

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7 hours ago, MoondoggieRN said:

Crowds shout down, taunt, heckle the police responding to a active shooter in their neighborhood, that shot six cops.

Are the irresponsible tweets of Warren and Harris to blame.  Is the BLM movement and the cops are racists narrative of the Obama era to blame?

 

Could the multiple reports and videos of African Americans being shot and or killed by police be to blame? 

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2019/08/police-officer-shootings-gun-violence-racial-bias-crime-data/595528/

 

 

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37 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I'm looking forward to that response.

Once again, this is what I said:

“...cops are racists narrative of the Obama era to blame?”

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57 minutes ago, MoondoggieRN said:

He pushed the narrative that the cops were racist.

Personally, I think he is racist.  But that is a irrelevant argument at this point.

How did Obama push the narrative that cops were racist?  

There is no doubt that there are instances where police respond to incidents differently based on the race of those involved, and that the systemic response and prevention of these racial disparities could use significant improvement.  It's the concerning frequency with which these events occurs that makes it so easy for so many to believe that Michael Brown was unjustly treated, even though there's no evidence of that.  Acknowledging that's the case isn't 'pushing the narrative that cops are racist'.  

As a couple of my friends who are LEOs frequently point out, it's not anti-cop to call out these 'bad apples' and to separate them from the larger LEO community, it's anti-cop to state or suggest that these bad-cops and these incidents are acceptable and part of normal police practice, that's what puts officers in danger more than anything else.  

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And here is the main reason, why there shouldn't be unfettered access to guns in this country: White people can't use them responsibly.

From today's WaPo:

Black Teens Were Fundraising For Their Football Team. Than A White Woman Held Them At Gunpoint, Police Say

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22 minutes ago, Lil Nel said:

And here is the main reason, why there shouldn't be unfettered access to guns in this country: White people can't use them responsibly.

From today's WaPo:

Black Teens Were Fundraising For Their Football Team. Than A White Woman Held Them At Gunpoint, Police Say

Four black teens were fundraising for their high school football team. A white woman held them at gunpoint.

 Police arrived at Kelly's house Wednesday, Aug. 7 at around 10 a.m., responding to a report of "suspicious persons," to find the four boys on the ground, with Kelly, who is white, standing over them with a gun...

...   According to the police report, Kelly's neighbor said she could hear the boys playing outside, but said "nothing out of the ordinary" was taking place. Another neighbor said the boys appeared to be playing hide-and-seek and laughing in the street. 

In their statement, the boys, who are all between the ages of 15 and 16, described being chased by a dog near Kelly's house. The owner then approached the boys and apologized, promising the dog would not bite. They laughed about the situation and played with the dog before continuing to Kelly's house. 

The boys said they were "scared to even talk" to Kelly after she called them liars and threatened to shoot them if they moved from the ground. They said she lectured them after police arrived and insisted they look her in the eyes and shake her hand. 

Wynne School District Superintendent Carl Easley said students participate in fundraising "every year," but the district is considering stopping door-to-door fundraisers...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jerri-kelly-arkansas-woman-held-four-black-teens-fundraising-high-school-football-gunpoint-wynne-county-2019-08-17/

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I don't like door to door fundraisers, but if someone knocks on my door and I don't recognize them, or are not expecting them, I typically just don't answer the door. The only reason to pull out a firearm (I don't actually possess one) would be if they began to attempt to enter my home, began to walk around the home trying doors or windows, entered my back yard, something threatening of that nature. Even then, I would not confront them-that's 911 time.  This lady sounds like a real winner.

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2 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Four black teens were fundraising for their high school football team. A white woman held them at gunpoint.

 Police arrived at Kelly's house Wednesday, Aug. 7 at around 10 a.m., responding to a report of "suspicious persons," to find the four boys on the ground, with Kelly, who is white, standing over them with a gun...

...   According to the police report, Kelly's neighbor said she could hear the boys playing outside, but said "nothing out of the ordinary" was taking place. Another neighbor said the boys appeared to be playing hide-and-seek and laughing in the street. 

In their statement, the boys, who are all between the ages of 15 and 16, described being chased by a dog near Kelly's house. The owner then approached the boys and apologized, promising the dog would not bite. They laughed about the situation and played with the dog before continuing to Kelly's house. 

The boys said they were "scared to even talk" to Kelly after she called them liars and threatened to shoot them if they moved from the ground. They said she lectured them after police arrived and insisted they look her in the eyes and shake her hand. 

Wynne School District Superintendent Carl Easley said students participate in fundraising "every year," but the district is considering stopping door-to-door fundraisers...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jerri-kelly-arkansas-woman-held-four-black-teens-fundraising-high-school-football-gunpoint-wynne-county-2019-08-17/

Thanks for posting, herring.

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2 hours ago, Horseshoe said:

I don't like door to door fundraisers, but if someone knocks on my door and I don't recognize them, or are not expecting them, I typically just don't answer the door. The only reason to pull out a firearm (I don't actually possess one) would be if they began to attempt to enter my home, began to walk around the home trying doors or windows, entered my back yard, something threatening of that nature. Even then, I would not confront them-that's 911 time.  This lady sounds like a real winner.

The fact that she held a firearm on them, for no good reason, and then behaved like they owed her an apology, is especially troubling.

This woman shouldn't be in possession of firearms.

 

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