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Big anti-gun violence event planned tonight in Louisville, hometown of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

A caravan of Moms Demand Action On Gun Violence, is traveling today, from Dayton, OH to the River City, picking up members along the way, to rally outside the Ali Center.

KY Congressman, John Yarmouth, is a featured speaker, as well as Tim Ryan, Congressman from OH, who called Trump's idea to link gun safety issues to immigration, "a joke."

Mitch can hide, but he will not be able to run from the calls to reconvene the Senate, to DO SOMETHING about gun violence.

Today, 200 mayors,across the nation, called on him to DO SOMETHING.

The Turtle can only hide his head, for so long.

 

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And of course, Trump's visit to El Paso, was ALL ABOUT HIM.

From CNN: Trump Brags About Crowd Size During Hospital Visit To El Paso

He is, an absolute buffoon, unworthy of any respect.

Ever.

 

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6 hours ago, MoondoggieRN said:

Oh, would you look at this.  I guess it’s a matter of if you interpret statistics.

“Trump critics might claim that there were far fewer shootings during Obama’s administration, blaming the rise in attacks on Trump. In fact, Obama’s presidency marked a sharp rise in mass shootings which seemed to pass unnoticed by the mainstream media. “

The entire article is worth a read.  

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/134720/which-president-has-more-mass-shootings-barack-or-trump/

The article itself seems to contradict your excerpt from it.  As it's evidence, it references a meme that suggested a sharp rise in school shootings in 2018 (are memes "mainstream media"?) and that the meme was debunked by USA Today (Is USA today not mainstream media?).  And I'm not having any trouble finding stories from the mainstream media during the Obama administration about the incidence of mass shootings.

It's evidence of "mainstream" bias is that the NYT had this headline "El Paso Shooting Suspect’s Manifesto Echoed Trump’s Language.", which appears objectively accurate.  Do you disagree with that assessment?

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Mass Shootings in the United States: 2009-2017

  • From 2009 to 2017, there were at least 173 mass shootings in the U.S.
  • 2017 was the deadliest year on record for mass shootings. There were four times as many people shot in mass shootings in 2017 than the average of the eight years prior.
  • In at least one-third of mass shootings, the shooter was legally prohibited from possessing firearms at the time of the shooting.
  • In half of mass shootings, the shooter exhibited warning signs indicating that they posed a danger to themselves or others before the shooting.
  • The majority of mass shootings were related to domestic or family violence. These incidents were responsible for 86 percent of mass shooting child fatalities.
  • Mass shootings that involved the use of high-capacity magazines resulted in more than twice as many fatalities and 14 times as many injuries on average compared to those that did not...

https://everytownresearch.org/reports/mass-shootings-analysis/ 

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McConnell: Gun background checks will be 'front and center' in Senate debate

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) predicted Thursday that gun background checks and so-called red flag laws would be "front and center" in the chamber's upcoming debate on gun-related legislation. 

"The discussion is focusing on two things: One is these red flag warnings. … There's also been some discussion about background checks," McConnell told Kentucky radio station WHAS during an interview on Thursday. 

When the radio host noted that expanding background checks is supported by roughly 90 percent of Americans, McConnell acknowledged that "there's a lot of support for that." 

"There's a bipartisan bill in the Senate, Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, a Republican, and Joe Manchin of West Virginia, a Democrat, so those are two items that for sure will be front and center as we see what we can come together on and pass," McConnell added. 

McConnell did not say whether he supports expanding background checks or that he would give a bill that expands background checks a vote as part of the Senate's upcoming debate...

 https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/456776-mcconnell-gun-background-checks-will-be-front-and-center-in-senate-debate

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The recent stunt that occurred in the Missouri Walmart (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html) isn't the first of its kind.

 

A couple of years ago, two guys who are known to be "provocateurs" walked into a Michigan police station armed and wearing body armor, one with a camera and handgun, the other wearing a ski mask and carrying an assault rifle. The police reacted to them in predictable fashion. They were eventually sentenced for a variety of crimes, though their lawyer insists that their actions were not illegal and that the charges were trumped up technicalities.

news story with video of the event taken by the perpetrators:
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/men-arrested-after-walking-into-dearborn-police-station-carrying-guns-wearing-masks

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/men-who-walked-into-dearborn-police-station-armed-with-guns-tactical-vests-sentenced

I think the Walmart guy was perpetrating a similar stunt, making a point about it being perfectly legal to enter a place of business armed in an open carry state. I'm sure he got a big kick out of scaring the daylights out of the other shoppers.

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An opinion:

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El Paso Was Not Random or Senseless. It Was Xenocide

DAVID SUISSA | AUG 7, 2019

It should be obvious that there is no one magical solution to this madness.

We need smart and effective gun control, better management of mental illness, closer monitoring of online activity for warning signs, better enforcement of laws to keep guns away from those prone to violence, media cooperation to starve killers of the fame they crave, a toning down of hateful and racist rhetoric, and so on. We need all of it and more.

But for a certain kind of crime, like the one at El Paso that targeted “Hispanic invaders,” we also need a new name.

When a murderer goes after a group based on race, ethnicity or religion, it’s not enough to call it a crime. When Hitler targeted the Jews for annihilation, we didn’t call it a crime or even terror. We called it “genocide,” which is the “deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a specific ethnic group or nation.”

A Jew-hater who walks into a synagogue to murder Jews is committing a type of genocide. So is a Muslim-hater who walks into a mosque to murder Muslims, or a white supremacist who walks into a Walmart to murder Latinos...

...   As he (Stephen Smith, who runs the USC Shoah Foundation and is UNESCO Chair on Genocide Education)  explains in his column this week, “In my 25 years of researching the Holocaust, Armenian, Rwandan and other genocides, there are certain similarities and themes that are consistent in every mass tragedy: ideology, dictatorial leadership, armed conflict and government perpetration.”...

...   But what happens when it’s not a government that commits genocide but a lone killer?

“This presents a legal dilemma,” he writes, because “[t]he acts of these individual, radicalized men, and the ideologies behind their actions, are clearly genocidal in nature, but perpetrated by one person rather than a government. There are no obvious precedents of lone wolf genocidaires in Western society.” Smith believes these “genocidaires” represent a new, 21st-century phenomenon unlike any other...

...    we’re dealing here with a new kind of menace, and if we are to fight it effectively, we ought to start by finding the right name for it.

Smith suggests the term “Xenocide.”  “[Xenocide] combines two Greek words to mean the killing of people perceived as foreigners or outsiders. It suggests, rightly, that the act is rooted in racism and xenophobia. It implies that the act is fundamentally different from other kinds of killing. It also implies mass killing, because the target is not an individual, it is a group.”

This new term is not meant to apply to all mass shootings. Rather, it recognizes that there’s something especially sinister about the deliberate targeting of a special class of people, whether by a country or an individual...

https://jewishjournal.com/columnist-2/editors-note/302606/el-paso-was-not-random-or-senseless-it-was-xenocide/ 

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19 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

An opinion:

I agree.

And let us remember, how the genocide in Rwanda, started.

In many respects, it's origins, echo the rhetoric of Trump and Friends.

Which is why it is so dangerous to coddle, those who agree with, and make excuses for Trump's racist speech.

These are not ideas worthy of contemplation or discussion.

These ideas, and the people who support and enable them, need to be called out, and held accountable.

To do otherwise, is not to uphold free speech, but to be complicit, in behavior meant to destroy our country.

Of course, Trump and Trumpsters, want nothing more than to engage in "discussion," as it serves to normalize their abhorrent beliefs.

That is why the Ignore feature, on AN, is so vital.

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4 hours ago, Horseshoe said:

The recent stunt that occurred in the Missouri Walmart (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html) isn't the first of its kind.

 

A couple of years ago, two guys who are known to be "provocateurs" walked into a Michigan police station armed and wearing body armor, one with a camera and handgun, the other wearing a ski mask and carrying an assault rifle. The police reacted to them in predictable fashion. They were eventually sentenced for a variety of crimes, though their lawyer insists that their actions were not illegal and that the charges were trumped up technicalities.

news story with video of the event taken by the perpetrators:
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/men-arrested-after-walking-into-dearborn-police-station-carrying-guns-wearing-masks

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/men-who-walked-into-dearborn-police-station-armed-with-guns-tactical-vests-sentenced

I think the Walmart guy was perpetrating a similar stunt, making a point about it being perfectly legal to enter a place of business armed in an open carry state. I'm sure he got a big kick out of scaring the daylights out of the other shoppers.

The moron is lucky he is White, and therefore, was able to walk out of the situation alive.

Can you imagine, if a Black, or Muslim, gun enthusiast, tried the same, idiotic stunt?

They would be dead.

Just like Philando Castile, the Black man, with a license to carry a concealed weapon, ended up dead, when pulled over by a cop, despite telling the cop, he was licensed and carrying.

 

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From today's NY Times:

How The El Paso Killer Echoed The Words Of Conservative Media Stars

Again, recall how the Rwandian genocide began.

I don't consider Tucker Carlson or Rush Limbaugh, to be Conservative.

Both are right-wing extremists.

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