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10 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

This train of thought makes no sense to me.  Is each comment unrelated to the previous? Perhaps the common theme is simple animus?

The point is to pick a fight over guns and derail the thread into a black hole of dueling technicalities and chest-thumping dominance displays. Don’t bite.

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6 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Chicago is #57 on the list of most dangerous cities. Los Angeles is not on the list.

 

 

A bit misleading.  There are places in LA equal to the population of Bessemer one would be less safe then being in Bessemer AL, as you know.

 

Edited by MoondoggieRN

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9 hours ago, Turtlellini said:

The shooter seems to have to have ECO Terrorism beliefs.  Calling an invasion an invasion is somehow wrong?

Calling migration of people an invasion is disingenuous at best and racist at worst. 

 

invasion

1: an act of invadingespecially : incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2: the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful
 
 

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7 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Chicago is #57 on the list of most dangerous cities. Los Angeles is not on the list.

 

 

The best statistics on gun violence, are found at the Gun Violence Archieve.

It is based in Lexington, KY, and the man who oversees it, is a gun owner.

I saw him speak at a Moms Demand Action On Gun Violence meeting, and his knowledge is vast and interesting.

The organization is nonpartisan.

It considers a mass shooting to be any event that involves four or more people.

I don't recall the gentleman's name, but he also appeared on NPR, this weekend.

When he appeared at Mom's meeting, I asked about the rise in popularity of the AR-15.

His response helped to explain a lot, regarding the massacres that are now happening daily, in this country.

As I said, he is a proud gun owner.

But  one who believes that gun ownership, requires responsibility, not simply the unfettered access to guns, guns, guns, 24/7.

When talking to gun owners, I find the differences are similar to those differences found among Conservatives and Right-Wingers.

One group, you can talk to, and work out compromises, and the other, is like talking to a pile of bricks.

So, the next time, you are looking for gun statistics, check out the Gun Violence Archieve.

The numbers are broken down, by every conceivable category.

 

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Thank you, Nel, for this:

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Gun Violence Archive (GVA) is a not for profit corporation formed in 2013 to provide free online public access to accurate information about gun-related violence in the United States. GVA will collect and check for accuracy, comprehensive information about gun-related violence in the U.S. and then post and disseminate it online.

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

 

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5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Calling migration of people an invasion is disingenuous at best and racist at worst. 

 

invasion

1: an act of invadingespecially : incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2: the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful
 
 

20 million  illegals in a country is an invasion.  You can lie to yourself if you want to but the facts are facts.

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1 minute ago, Turtlellini said:

20 million  illegals in a country is an invasion.  You can lie to yourself if you want to but the facts are facts.

You have the right to have that opinion but not to change a definition to accommodate your beliefs. I posted the commondefinition and you posted your opinion (and that of the Racist in Chief).

This is not an armed incursion, it's primarily families. They aren't coming for conquest or plunder but for opportunity and hope. They aren't spreading something hurtful. Since the immigrants and refugees don't meet the standard criteria to be called an invasion, does that mean you are using the racist criteria for labelling them as such? Trump does. 

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10 minutes ago, Turtlellini said:

20 million  illegals in a country is an invasion.  You can lie to yourself if you want to but the facts are facts.

Seems like a pretty inflated number, from what I’m reading. Can you provide documentation for that claim?

Meanwhile, the irony is inescapable. As we all know, indigenous people in the Americas had lousy immigration policies.

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5 hours ago, MoondoggieRN said:

A bit misleading.  There are places in LA equal to the population of Bessemer one would be less safe then being in Bessemer AL, as you know.

The articles and statistics already posted were from the South Los Angeles and Watts sections of LA. Those along with Compton were traditional Black ghettos because there were not many parts of the city where homes were sold or rented to them. 

This was one of the first meetings held that resulted in hundreds of gang member off the streets. Most were found to be illegally in possession of one or more firearms and are in prison. Look back in this thread where I posted about this same group of citizens whose anonymous reports resulted in gang members from  Central America arrested by the FBI and LAPD lat May 2019. 

No the improvement in Los Angeles was in the highest crime part of the city. It took citizens working with police each and every day. It is ongoing. Those people made hundreds of reports over three years to get those gang member in custody. I think they deserve credit, not told the neighborhoods they were brave enough make safer are still what they were when good citizens were too afraid to act.

That baby in his Grandpa's arm is probably in high school now. 

 

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28 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You have the right to have that opinion but not to change a definition to accommodate your beliefs. I posted the commondefinition and you posted your opinion (and that of the Racist in Chief).

This is not an armed incursion, it's primarily families. They aren't coming for conquest or plunder but for opportunity and hope. They aren't spreading something hurtful. Since the immigrants and refugees don't meet the standard criteria to be called an invasion, does that mean you are using the racist criteria for labelling them as such? Trump does. 

You don't know why they are coming here.  they could be coming for all the welfare and free health care for all you know.  How many have criminal records?  How many have gang affiliation?  How many are involved in the drug trade or human smuggling?  It certainly is an invasion and a crisis at the border that the left denied only a few months ago but are now calling it a crisis.  

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32 minutes ago, heron said:

Seems like a pretty inflated number, from what I’m reading. Can you provide documentation for that claim?

Meanwhile, the irony is inescapable. As we all know, indigenous people in the Americas had lousy immigration policies.

There are no exact numbers only estimates anywhere from 11 million to 22 million

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5 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Calling migration of people an invasion is disingenuous at best and racist at worst. 

 

invasion

1: an act of invadingespecially : incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2: the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful
 
 
in·va·sion
/inˈvāZHən/
noun
 
  1. an instance of invading a country or region with an armed force.
    "in 1546 England had to be defended from invasion"
    synonyms: occupation, conquering, capture, seizure, annexation, annexing, takeover, appropriation, expropriation, arrogation; More
     
     
     
     
       
    • an incursion by a large number of people or things into a place or sphere of activity.
      "stadium guards are preparing for another invasion of fans"
      synonyms: influx, inundation, inrush, rush, flood, torrent, deluge, stream, avalanche
      "every year the valley suffers an invasion of cars"
    • an unwelcome intrusion into another's domain.
      "random drug testing of employees is an unwarranted invasion of privacy"
      synonyms: violation, infringement, interruption, disturbance, disruption, breach, infraction; More
       
       

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