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Do You Think Society Is Degenerating?

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When I was growing up, People who had homosexual tendencies hid them, People rarely locked their doors because most things were rarely touched, people were rarely shot especially in public, It was safe to go into a movie theater to watch a movie, guards were unheard of in schools, people didn't have to fear being attacked like our societies currently are, There was no such organization as "Homeland Security." That organization was created after Osama Bin Laden tried to bomb the Twin Towers in 1993, Many items that are manufactured today don't last as long as they used to, numerous people today feel the use of the "F" word is a common part of our language, and on and on.

I for one feel that the quality (but not all) is beginning to deteriorate.

Families rarely eat together anymore, instead they eat in front of the TV, or most kids play video games on their cell phones-in fact I have even witnessed that with caregivers. There is little work ethic, and many who are conscientious in the work-place are either talked about, played tricks on, or are not co-operated with. I say, "What a shame!"

Most people, including the young people who have the proper moral values are becoming more and more rare. My hat is off to those who still eat together, play board games together, play sports with positive attitudes, who don't steal from the workplace or cheat on tests or on their mates.

What is your opinion about what is occurring in today's society?

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I think you are presenting a severely cropped vision of the good ole days. The story was very different for those hidden homosexuals, for instance.

So, I guess my question is deteriorated for whom?

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My thoughts:

Every generation has complained about the one(s) after them.

What you consider a better world is not the same as everyone else's better world. People hiding who they truly are and who they truly love? No thank you. Probably would have been better to keep that one to yourself. What you consider "proper moral values" is not the same for everyone. As long as it's legal, it's not up to you to dictate what constitutes "proper moral values". Your values end with you.

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I can't really say whether "society" is degenerating or evolving. I truly think it depends on which society you're talking about.

What Fran remembers is what she grew up with ... and it's good that she felt safe and respected then.

Around that same time, though, homosexual panic was a get-out-of-jail-free card: a valid reason to kill someone. A lesbian sexual identity has gotten more than one woman involuntarily committed ... and the mental health hospitals of the time weren't exactly very nurturing.

Then there's the children of homosexuals displaced from their families when a parent was outed and became, a priori, unfit. For those who weren't, there's the sheer hell of living with a closet case. It makes those family dinners ... interesting.

No ... I'd really rather not go back to that.

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My grandfather's sister was a closet lesbian, the first of her family to attend or graduate from college, an ethnomusicologist and college professor, AND the first person I remember playing melodies on an autoharp.

She lived with her "friend" and was known as an "awkward old maid."

Like my grandfather, who died when I was a baby, she was taught to hate "colored people' yet befriended and learned many songs from people she never considered her equal. She wrote several books of "Texas Folk Songs".

She was a kind woman who used the "N" word. She gave food to hobos serving White ones in the house and Negro ones on the back steps.

I wonder what she would have been if raised in a different time or place.

She told me about Katharine Lee Bates, who wrote "America The Beautiful" and also lived with a female friend.

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... Most people, including the young people who have the proper moral values ...

Who gets to decide what constitutes the "proper" moral values????

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I don't society is degenerating. I think a lot of horrible things are being brought out into the light that have been kept secret for many years. Things like the abuse of children by clergy, coaches, and other so-called authority figures. Things like long term sexual harassment of women, misogyny, and racism.

I don't want to go back to a time where people were harrassed and worse because of what they look like, how they worship, or who they love. The good old days weren't so good for many people. I know many people, young and old who have a great work ethic and do not put down others for working hard.

Life in the past decades wasn't all Pleasantville and Leave it to Beaver. Many people suffered due to the so called morals of those times. Some want to live in the past. I prefer to move forward.

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When you look at who we elected as president, then yes, we have deteriorated.

We still seldom lock our doors.

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When you look at who we elected as president, then yes, we have deteriorated.

We still seldom lock our doors.

I agree with the first statement.

I live in rural Alaska and I lock my doors.

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Thank you all for your input. I have learned about your various views and I appreciate this.

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I had a happy and secure childhood growing up in the 1950s and '60s, and have many fond memories. But would I want to live in that society now, as an adult woman?? No !@#$ing way. In some ways, things are "worse," but many aspects of life are so much better for so many groups of people in so many ways than they were then.

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