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Just wondering if there are any fellow Ketoers out there. I've been Ketoing since January and have lost 40 pounds. I feel great, and my numbers have gone down significantly (BP, cholesterol, CRP) since I started.

Now, I am not one of those folks that thinks the Keto diet will cure cancer (a la The Magic Pill documentary) but I can see that it has numerous health benefits. That being said, I don't believe diets/ways of eating are one size fits all for everyone. I started by doing The Whole 30 and found that carbs and sugar were my "poison" so I cut them out. I also consulted my PCP who said as long as I hydrate, keep my electrolytes in check, and stay above 1400 calories a day he was on board.

So, here goes... does anyone else Keto?

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I just started. My problem with the whole thing is all the conflicting info out there. There's no standard to it, it seems. Everybody and their brother has made a YouTube video about it, and one group will tell you one food is a definite no, then others will say it's ok as long as you watch your carbs.

I feel very sluggish right now and have a huge headache and have for the last week. I know it will pass, but this is the hard part.

I've dropped almost 5lbs in my first week. I know it's all water. I keep my calories 1200-1400 and I'm intermittent fasting with it. I can go 14-16 hours fasting before I have to eat.

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The "keto flu" can be hard but you can get through it. There is a lot of conflicting information out there. Some people don't eat dairy but I do. Cheesesticks are my favorite snack because they're so easy to scarf down. What I try to stick with is homemade meals and cut out the processed food. That is a huge part of this diet that a lot of people overlook. I try to to lots of eggs, meat, veggies, and avocados. I try to meal prep as much as possible for the week. For instance, I make a frittata on Sunday that I can just pop in the microwave for breakfast. I eat leftovers for lunch at work as well. I do eat nuts, specifically macadamia, walnuts, and cashews, which is where I get the majority of my daily carbs from.

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I did low carb about 10 years ago -- for about 5 years. Lost 55 pounds, felt great, numbers great. ... After about 5 years, my weight started creeping up and I increased my exercise. But it was no good: I still kept gaining weight. Eventually my numbers went up again and all the dietary sacrifices seemed useless. Over the past 5 years I have regained all the weight and fallen "off the wagon" completely.

Now that I have been "off the wagon" completely for about a year, I am wondering if my metabolism is back to normal ... and would going low carb start working again if I started all over again? I don't know.

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and would going low carb start working again if I started all over again? I don't know.

I believe it would. For me, this is a lifestyle change, not just a diet. I plan on eating this way for the rest of my life, minus celebrating my birthday and the holidays. Even then, I only give myself two days each.

If it is too restrictive for you, Paleo might be better? I highly suggest starting with The Whole 30 to find out what your body doesn't like and going from there. It really is different for everyone!

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My plan is do to Keto to drop the initial weight. Then to do low carb. Then, go to clean eating.

I've read about carb cycling which is another thought once I get off the initial weight.

I feel like a certain amount of daily carbs are needed. Especially for some quick fuel. I want to get back into weight lifting. I'm just so depleted right now, I couldn't imagine cardio or lifting.

We will see. I'm going through the initial phases so I'll be anxious to see where I am in 30 days.

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I did low carb about 10 years ago -- for about 5 years. Lost 55 pounds, felt great, numbers great. ... After about 5 years, my weight started creeping up and I increased my exercise. But it was no good: I still kept gaining weight. Eventually my numbers went up again and all the dietary sacrifices seemed useless. Over the past 5 years I have regained all the weight and fallen "off the wagon" completely.

Now that I have been "off the wagon" completely for about a year, I am wondering if my metabolism is back to normal ... and would going low carb start working again if I started all over again? I don't know.

Same here. I've been "off" for a year as my body started to gain and maintain no matter what I ate (or didn't eat). I'd love to drop 20-30 lbs and am tempted to see if it would work again after this long break.

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I am getting back on after being off a month so I know it is tough.

I feel like a certain amount of daily carbs are needed. Especially for some quick fuel. I want to get back into weight lifting. I'm just so depleted right now, I couldn't imagine cardio or lifting.

I do agree that you need a certain amount of daily carbs. I "keto lite" or "lazy keto" in that I take in 35g carbs/day. When I'm mountain biking it is not uncommon for me to hit 45g carbs/day. I use it, though, and still stay in keto so it does work.

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The ketogenic diet is meant for children with severe epilepsy. When I worked in the hospital (peds neuro), these kids needed to be admitted to initiate the diet and remain hospitalized for 3-5 days of close monitoring. I once had a child who became so severely acidotic (bicarb of 9) that she needed multiple IV sodium bicarb infusions throughout my shift. It's crazy to me that this has become a fad diet.

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In terms of general health, a keto diet isn't particularly optimal, but really whatever helps people reduce the share of carbs in their overall caloric intake and reduce their overall caloric intake is better than nothing, even a somewhat misunderstood fad diet.

Ideally, a diet that balances carbs, fats, and proteins in a way that best batches their energy requirements in amount of energy available and the timing of that availability, with some reasonable degree of caloric deprivation in order to burn stored fat is the best scenario. Aside from being less effective than having more balanced protein intake along with fat intake, not everyone finds ketosis to be enjoyable, so intentionally inducing ketosis through diet in addition to the ketosis that occurs through stored fat metabolism can turn at least some people off to a reduced carb and reduced calorie diet, even though neither carb or overall calorie reduction is responsible for the unpleasant nature of ketosis.

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I once had a child who became so severely acidotic (bicarb of 9) that she needed multiple IV sodium bicarb infusions throughout my shift. It's crazy to me that this has become a fad diet.

I understand your point. I actually wound up with a kidney stone when I first attempted this because I was not drinking enough water. Christ, that hurt. I learned my lesson and worked with a dietician this time around to modify my diet with PCP support.

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Ideally, a diet that balances carbs, fats, and proteins in a way that best batches their energy requirements in amount of energy available and the timing of that availability, with some reasonable degree of caloric deprivation in order to burn stored fat is the best scenario. Aside from being less effective than having more balanced protein intake along with fat intake, not everyone finds ketosis to be enjoyable, so intentionally inducing ketosis through diet in addition to the ketosis that occurs through stored fat metabolism can turn at least some people off to a reduced carb and reduced calorie diet, even though neither carb or overall calorie reduction is responsible for the unpleasant nature of ketosis.

True. The Keto diet isn't for everyone. My husband is very tall and lean, and if he doesn't have carbs he will suffer. He is also 10x more active than me, so I can see why diets aren't one size fit all. We make it work with me preparing a Keto meat dish with a vegetable, and then I prepare potatoes or quinoa on the side for him.

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