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  2. MunoRN

    Debate 10-15-2019

    She's proposed an expansion of medicare, which already has a funding mechanism, so it's a bit silly to suggest her proposal doesn't include any funding possibilities. Medicare already uses payroll taxes as the source of funding, which would mean an increase in payroll tax deductions for workers but also a decrease in insurance premium deductions. Even predictions by conservative groups show we would be spending less under a medicare for all system than a private insurance based system, I'd have about $3000 less taken out of my paycheck each year for insurance under a medicare-for-all system. And yes, I can afford to pay $3000 less per year for insurance.
  3. Today
  4. Tweety

    Presidential Election 2020

    I am not splitting hairs. As I've said my parents go to private for-profit health care facilities for their government funded healthcare. Does the government have an impact on how healthcare is provided. Of course it does. Does insurance? Yes it does. When I needed shoulder surgery my insurance company said I had to fail conventional non-surgical treatment first. Or how about the recommendations that we have a colonoscopy at age 50. If it's clear, then the next one is due in 10 years. Medicare decided on that 10 year number is what they will pay, and insurance companies followed suit. So yes. We're already in the midst of that, so that fact that this isn't going to change doesn't factor into my wanting everyone covered equally. Even though my insurance company dictated my health care eventually they paid for it at a for-profit private facility to a for-profit private doctor. I don't see a move towards the government buying out all the healthcare and running it. Having a say so...yes, they already do. I have opinions about that, but it's not relevant.
  5. MunoRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    I doubt I agree with that description as you seem to define it. This would still be a system where you go to a non-government run hospital and are cared for by non-government employed staff. The decisions you and your doctor make are not dictated by the government. Democrats want a quality healthcare system that is sustainable which can only exist if it gets paid for, which seems reasonable to me, I'm not sure why you are anybody would fundamentally disagree with that.
  6. MunoRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    I didn't actually ignore that since as Heritage points out, there are no significant differences between their position and the ACA mandate. Heritage initially supported a legal requirement to buy lower deductible insurance, which then evolved into a requirement enforced by tax adjustments and where a high deductible plan would meet the requirement, identical to the ACA mandate. Speaking of ignoring though, you keep ignoring the question of whether or not you disagree with some sort of insurance requirement.
  7. Tweety

    The President Donald Trump Thread

    I'm not going to say that they didn't decide what sort of action they would take if it got ugly. They have to show strength and solidarity. Of course, it was predictably ugly since Trump can't help himself and doesn't act Presidential. Who knows if they would have walked out had he acted in a decent matter. Good for her for not taking his verbal abuse and insults. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/16/trump-nancy-pelosi-meeting-walkout-048909
  8. Yesterday
  9. toomuchbaloney

    Presidential Election 2020

    Republican Views on Health Care NOVEMBER 25, 2014 BY REPUBLIREPUBLICANVIEWS.ORG Looks about right.
  10. GrumpyRN

    Game of Groans

    And now we've found the level.
  11. MunoRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    I certainly hope so, that's the point. We already have government funded healthcare, and compared to non-government healthcare it's far superior. Government funded healthcare has done better at controlling healthcare cost inflation, better outcomes per dollar spent, and better at reducing wasteful care such as avoidable harm.
  12. MunoRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    According to your article Heritage did in fact include an insurance mandate in their healthcare platform, but that there were a number of other conservative sources that held the same view, so we shouldn't point to the Heritage Foundation as the only conservative source of an individual mandate. Do you feel insurance coverage should be optional for those able to contribute? Why should someone be able to utilize a system they chose not to help pay for despite an ability to do so?
  13. toomuchbaloney

    The President Donald Trump Thread

    Get Over It I am at a loss for words, he is not. All of those words could be boiled down to an admission, right?
  14. toomuchbaloney

    First word that comes to mind.....

    Wiley Coyote
  15. MoondoggieRN

    Debate 10-15-2019

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/warren-adviser-she-doesnt-have-tax-plan-yet-to-cover-cost-of-medicare-for-all/?fbclid=IwAR1UMgjs2VrazQYRxpKIKQADoJIhdVj05uVio60iJbKBs0Mp84WfpqJvkQk
  16. toomuchbaloney

    Presidential Election 2020

    Republican Healthcare Options Tired old ideas focused on money rather than on the health of the citizens.
  17. toomuchbaloney

    The President Donald Trump Thread

    His supporters will simply imagine that liberals are crying and celebrate that belief while imagining that they are patriots.
  18. herring_RN

    Thursday October 17, 2019

    Good morning Tweety, Joe, and BCgradnurse. Just planning to sweep and mop floors today. Sunday will be busy with the AIDS Walk in the morning and then husband and I plan to attend an early evening fund raiser with stand up comedy. Last time we attended we really laughed!
  19. herring_RN

    RIP Elijah Cummings

    ‘A giant of integrity and knowledge has fallen’: Washington reacts to the death of Rep. Elijah Cummings Democrats remembered Cummings as “a principled leader,” “a champion for justice” and “a giant.” While Cummings was revered by his fellow Democrats, many Washington Republicans also offered condolences and spoke of Cummings with admiration. Trump paid tribute to Cummings as a “highly respected political leader.” Flags at the White House, the U.S. Capitol, and in Maryland were lowered to half-staff Thursday in Cummings’s honor; flags at the White House would remain at half-staff through Friday... ... The son of South Carolina sharecroppers, Cummings was a lawyer and a civil rights advocate before entering what would ultimately be a nearly 40-year career in public service — first in the Maryland House of Delegates and later the U.S. House. Over the decades, he earned a reputation for being formidable but also kind and compassionate... https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/17/elijah-cummings-death-reaction-statements/?wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
  20. toomuchbaloney

    RIP Elijah Cummings

    We will miss his wise and compassionate advocacy in Congress.
  21. toomuchbaloney

    Presidential Election 2020

    Medical debt collection An example of conservative priorities in the health care discussion?
  22. toomuchbaloney

    Presidential Election 2020

    The most compelling healthcare arguments that you get from Republicans are based in misrepresentation of progressive plans and promises to repeal the ACA and dump millions off of their insurance. Mitch McConnell had to confront the realities of his healthcare lies in a local radio program the other day. Mitch came across as combative and unpleasant. He sounds worried.
  23. BCgradnurse

    RIP Elijah Cummings

    https://www.apnews.com/472ab99bda374c3ba906366d2f0a6d00 He was a good man who never forgot where he came from.
  24. MoondoggieRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    "More than 96 percent of itemized contributions to Democrat Amy McGrath's campaign came from outside Kentucky, including a contribution from NBA coach and China apologist Steve Kerr." https://freebeacon.com/politics/mcconnell-challenger-stockpiles-cash-from-steve-kerr-hollywood/
  25. MoondoggieRN

    The President Donald Trump Thread

    While I don't find it hard to believe Trump acted as portrayed, I find it equally easily believed that this was a political stunt pulled by Chuck and Nancy. Why did the other Democrats stay? https://www.conservativereview.com/news/mark-levin-know-pelosi-schumers-walkout-staged/ Edit
  26. MoondoggieRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    I think you're splitting hairs. Wouldn't you agree that when the govt funds healthcare that it's going to have a powerful influence on how healthcare is provided?
  27. MoondoggieRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    As I've indicated in other posts, elected Republicans, like Democrata, have failed all of us on healthcare. I'm not inclined to take the time to find old posts for you. If you are sincerely interested, read the book "Priceless: Curing the Healthcare Crisis" by John Goodman. We can start another thread and duscuss. Maybe we need to start a AN political bookclub?
  28. MoondoggieRN

    Presidential Election 2020

    Yes, someone please convince me. You should probably read this first: https://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/commentary/dont-blame-heritage-obamacare-mandate
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