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Conservative Candidates for President, 2016

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Ted Cruz will become the first Republican to officially announce his candidacy for president. Sen. Ted Cruz to announce presidential bid Monday | Fox News

It is amusing that the first candidate to announce was not born on US soil. I wonder what the "birthers" will think and say about this, they should be outraged, right?

Senator Cruz will have an interview with Sean Hannity after his speech at Liberty University.

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I wonder what the "birthers" will think and say about this, they should be outraged, right?

I assume that you are referring to the Democrats, as this mess came about as a result of some of Clinton's supporters in an attempt to jumpstart her campaign? However, many on the right quickly grabbed it and ran.

It is amusing that the first candidate to announce was not born on US soil.

In all seriousness, I agree with you. It was only claimed that Mr. Obama was born outside of the US. In the case of Mr. Cruz this is a clearly documented fact.

I did find one posting online explaining that as Mr. Cruz's mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, he automatically inherited her citizenship, however this is likely open to some interpretation. Interestingly, if this applies to Mr. Cruz, it would have equally applied to Mr. Obama had he actually been born in Kenya.

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Anyone who is born to a US citizen abroad is considered a US citizen if the birth is registered at a US consulate abroad. My friends living in South Africa at the time of their second daughter's birth had to go through a ton of bureaucracy to do this, but she is now considered a dual US/ZA citizen.

I do certainly hope that, for the sake of consistency, the birther contingent will demand to see Cruz' birth certificate and hold it up to the same level of scrutiny as they have Obama's.

The other thing I'm thinking for the moment: if Cruz has announced that he's going to announce his candidacy for president, isn't that like he kind of already announced it? This is like the JC Penney pre-sale sale.

I'm going to pull a chair and pop some popcorn.

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I believe he has already produced it.

My, how things change.

I want the long form. Signed by three judges, the mayor, a priest, and a rabbi. :roflmao:

And his registration of birth abroad.

Just kidding. I don't care. I'm not voting for him anyway.

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I don't care. The Obama birthers are frankly a bunch of racists who will never see any minority person as a "real American". If the Democrats try to turn this non-issue into a "thing", then shame on them. I have no respect for noise machine politics, regardless of the party generating it.

Ted Cruz is a self-dealing nanny-stater following in the footsteps of Tricky Dick Nixon, Saint Ronnie and Uncle Newt. He stands for oligarchy by and for the wealthy, and de facto slavery for the rest of us.

He is NOT a conservative.

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Even though it's not well defined I don't think there will be much protesting Cruz's legality to run for president by competing democratic candidates. The same question came up with McCain who was born in Panama and not only did nobody push the issue but a bill was actually passed in order to make it a non-issue (by legally defining McCain as a "natural born citizen", the bill was cosponsored by Clinton and Obama, his main competition for President.

Cruz will be an interesting addition to the fray, although traditionally the first to announce are those who know they have the smallest chance of a nomination. I'd like to see Rand Paul throw his hat in as well since he can often have pretty insightful views, although it seems to very widely depending on who he is talking to.

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FWIW, I don't think there will be a liberal "birther" frenzy to match that raised against Obama. I also don't think that those tea party folks who were so concerned about Obama's birth status will give two hoots about Cruz's origin of birth, he is a tea partier and will be easily accepted. I believe that the birthers are one note whistles and the note they were playing was racist.

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Cruz had the courtesy of releasing his birth certificate in 2013; unlike the President who kept it hidden for well into his Presidency.

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Unlike Obama, Cruz didn't get into an Ivy League school as a foreign exchange student.

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