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Climate change is affecting Planet Earth like never before. Learn about how the air, and water have been affected. Also, how autism is implicated in climate change. Your next patient: Planet Earth. You are reading page 4 of Climate Change: Coming to Your Hospital Soon. If you want to start from the beginning Go to First Page.

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It's unlikely that our political leadership will read this.

Our ambassador to the UN just resigned.

Not only did she resign, but there's a lot of loose talk that You Know Who may appoint Ivanka to replace her. Geez Louise!! At least Haley is a competent, knowledgeable adult!

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Not only did she resign, but there's a lot of loose talk that You Know Who may appoint Ivanka to replace her. Geez Louise!! At least Haley is a competent, knowledgeable adult!

Yep.

We should definitely have a fake purse and shoe designer, who cheats on taxes, represent American conservatism to the world. Trump wants to double down on making this country the laughing stock of the UN. Ivanka would, clearly, be a joke worthy choice.

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Thank you for posting this thoughtful article. Just when I thought the Baby Boomers were the most promising reason to start a nursing career now, along came climate change to make it even shinier. Thanks, EPA.

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Thank you for posting this thoughtful article. Just when I thought the Baby Boomers were the most promising reason to start a nursing career now, along came climate change to make it even shinier. Thanks, EPA.

You're blaming the EPA for climate change? Really?

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You're blaming the EPA for climate change? Really?

yep

Privatized profits and socialized clean up costs. That's the business model of mining and fossil fuel industry problems. They bank on the fact that their messes ate public health issues so there is incentive to get it cleaned up. They drag out cleanup for years, until the public will pay just to get it done.

didn't you know that if an old mine site full of poison and pollution is breached and runs into a river that the EPA is fully responsible, there is no blame for the capitalists who took the money and left the mess.

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didn't you know that if an old mine site full of poison and pollution is breached and runs into a river that the EPA is fully responsible, there is no blame for the capitalists who took the money and left the mess.

If you're referring to the 2015 Gold King Mine spill, the EPA is responsible for the cleanup as they were responsible for creating the spill.

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If you're referring to the 2015 Gold King Mine spill, the EPA is responsible for the cleanup as they were responsible for creating the spill.

Who was responsible for creating the pollutants in the first place?

TMB is spot on about the basic business plan of the extractive industries: private profits, public clean-up. Textbook cost-shifting.

I'm no big fan of the EPA, decades of subversion have pretty much pulled whatever teeth they ever had. The current administration is just finishing the job of turning them into the joke that private industry always wanted them to be.

But blaming them for pollution created by private industry, because they fumbled the clean-up, is just too disingenuous for words.

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Who was responsible for creating the pollutants in the first place?

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This I agree with. Whoever was responsible for creating the hazard should be responsible for cleaning it up. And it is my understanding that they are held accountable. I am unsure as to how, or why, the EPA became responsible for cleaning that site.

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This I agree with. Whoever was responsible for creating the hazard should be responsible for cleaning it up. And it is my understanding that they are held accountable. I am unsure as to how, or why, the EPA became responsible for cleaning that site.

I haven't researched that particular incident particularly carefully, but a quick search shows that the EPA became involved at the request of the state (Colorado).

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But blaming them for pollution created by private industry, because they fumbled the cleanup, is just too disingenuous for words.

I'm not blaming the EPA for the pollution. The EPA had been working with Environmental Restoration LLC, a contracted private cleanup crew at the Gold King Mine to mitigate a leak into Cement Creek. While the cleanup crew on site was attempting to install drainage pipes the containment wall was breached, allowing the spill into the Animas River. After the incident, the EPA accepted responsibility, although I'm unsure why, exactly as I've read conflicting reports as to whether it was EPA personnel, or employees of Environmental Restoration. If tha latter, it would seem that they should be responsible.

This is an ongoing problem with many abandoned gold mines in Colorado, with either active or potential leaching of hazardous materials. The EPA nominated this site for superfund designation during the early 1990s, without success. Apparently there was a lack of community support, which might have contributed. Had this site been designated as a superfund site funds might have been available earlier.

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