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Can a fat nurse be a good nurse?

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1.) I am not overweight... quite athletic imo.

2.) This post displays ignorance, does it not?

3.) Perhaps the OP forgot critical thinking skills. America as a whole is trending up on the scale, and has been since the 80s. There is ONLY ONE state with about 20% obesity rate (my state, CO). The rest are higher. It wont be long before we are too.

4.) Given the fact that nationally we're trending up, of course RNs are going to follow that trend.

5.) Does being too thin make you a bad nurse?

I've known horrible skinny nurses, and horrible fat nurses. Correlating weight with the 'goodness' of a nurse simply blows my mind. I feel stupid for even posting here because of the ignorance of the OP makes me wonder how you are, if you are, a nurse.

Please post a reply with the hospital you work at so I can steer clear of it. Who knows if I'll get bad nursing care as the result of a snap judgement.

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The OP is a student. She made a beginner mistake in the presentation of her post. Let's cut her a little slack now. She's seen the responses and hopefully has learned from it.

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As a vegan, I've made what I believe is my best choice to maintain MY health. Other adults have every right to make different choices. I exercise frequently. I am not and have never been fat. However, I am a "type A" stress junkie. I love high adrenaline situations and tend to have high stress levels. Should I change this: probably. Am I motivated to change: not really. Outside, I look extremely healthy, but I have high stress levels. This does NOT make me a bad nurse, any more than being fat makes someone else a bad nurse. It makes me a HUMAN nurse, just like every other nurse. Judge people on their skill and compassion, not appearance.

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As a vegan, I've made what I believe is my best choice to maintain MY health. Other adults have every right to make different choices. I exercise frequently. I am not and have never been fat. However, I am a "type A" stress junkie. I love high adrenaline situations and tend to have high stress levels. Should I change this: probably. Am I motivated to change: not really. Outside, I look extremely healthy, but I have high stress levels. This does NOT make me a bad nurse, any more than being fat makes someone else a bad nurse. It makes me a HUMAN nurse, just like every other nurse. Judge people on their skill and compassion, not appearance.

Exactly. Assigning negative connotations to a population of people is alarming. Yes, we all do it, make snap judgments. This is why so many of my instructors say 'nursing caring' can not be taught.

The OP might as well posted a racist categorization, because this assessment is not far off.

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I agree that we need to cut students some slack- they're asking questions (hopefully) to learn. That will make them better nurses- and Lord knows, we need better nurses (no matter if we have good ones or not- always room to improve).

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Yes... we students may need slack.

But not assigning value based upon stereotypes is something that should have been learned loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before nursing school... like in the first grade.

I suppose getting it tackled now is better than later when the OP has 'fat' patients...

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i cannot believe the amount of excuses touted on here for people being overweight, or the studies done that basically say 'being obese is ok, obese people should blah blah...' i can't believe people are still in denial about their weight. it's like the big people are looking for any study or excuse to say it's ok for them to be big!

and as to medications causing weight problems, my gf's thyroid gave up 10 years ago, and she told me herself that she only put on about 5-10 kg, so instead of leading a healthy lifestyle and maintaining a good weight for her, she gave up instead, and just eats c**p now, doesn't exercise, still smokes, etc - her hubby & daughter are just as bad. she denies any depression. i had not seen her for about 20 years and was appalled at all the junk she was eating, and shoving into her mouth. she'd just done shopping and her cart/trolley was full of stuff you fry and frozes meals. she also told me her 10 year old daughter is now overweight too but didn't seem really concerned about it. my gf also has joint problems now and denies her weight is causing it.

the medication excuse is just that: i'm on meds and that's why i'm overweight. sure you may put on some weight, but that does not stop you leading a healthy lifestyle and exercising. i'm on meds but i never use that as an excuse for extra kilos. i always gain weight in winter (less exercise), and lose a heap in summer.

you only have to look at obese people to know they aren't healthy. i was standing beside a huge woman the other day, and she could hardly stand or breathe for that matter. i felt sorry for her, but unfortunately this is what happens when people don't look after themselves.

i believe you can be a bit overweight and be healthy, but being obese is an entirely different matter. and i've worked with obese nurses who sat down a lot inbetween duties, c/o sore feet, sore knees, etc and don't seem to register that it's their weight that may be causing it. and i resent obese people sitting down when i've asked them to do duties, which i have to end up doing myself because they can't see that their weight is slowing them down. and peoples, you can't sit down in nursing! it's not going to happen, or will rarely happen so don't get used to it!

i think too many people live in denial re their weight and don't want to make even the slightest change to their life. and you don't have to make too many. my dad knows one man who just cut all his intake in half and lost 50 or 60 kgs in one year. he didn't make any other changes to his lifestyle except walking for half an hour neary every day. his bp went down and he felt healthier.

i just get fed up with the obese nurses - and obese people - moaning and complaining to anyone who will listen: i was born fat, i don't know how i got like this, i don't like being overweight, it's my glands that cause this, god my knees hurt!! - excuse after excuse. it's like they are all little babies who we have to pat on the back, and lie to, like: don't worry, your weight isn't the problem, i will do your work for you, that's ok.

and i'm really tired of the obese nurses/people who come to work and whine in my ear about their weight - unless u want some really fair dinkum advice - i will give it to you straight and tell you that you need to lose weight, tone up, and for starters stop blaming everyone else for your weight problems. i will always help people who are motivated, but the whiners and baby whingers need to frankly grow up. you are an adult now, not a baby and your life may never be perfect, but losing weight and/or toning up isn't going to hurt you - in fact, it will very probably help you. even toning up and doing exercise you enjoy is the key, even if you don't lose a lot of weight at first, you're still doing something to enhance your life.

being healthy is the key, it's not just about losing weight - but we've all been brainwashed into thinking you must be a size 10 and be super slim to be healthy!

if you're obese and can't handle the rphysicality of nursing, either get healthier or get out of nursing.

what a nasty, judgemental post! i sincerely hope you never gain weight yourself.

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It would be great if there were no prejudice of any kind, or the need to even have these discussions....but there is, and we do.

People come from different backgrounds, that have their own issues about weight, race, religions, politics, etc.... There are a LOT of reasons to argue, and become upset. I hate these discussions with a passion- but hope the outcome can be a bit more compassion so the next person the OP writer encounters who is overweight won't be as painful. :)

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No matter how passionate we may feel about the competence of fat nurses, public perception still remains the same. You say the public doesn't feel this way? Ask them. Being a student is great. It's like being a fly on thwe wall. People feel like they can say anything to you. Never heard any comments about fat nurses? Maybe because you are the fat nurse and no one will say it to your face.

The public is fairly bristling with biases, pre-judgements and bigotry about quite a few qualities a nurse may have, or not have. Or maybe they have. If a person (and incredibly, some do) makes a remark about, or a mociking hand gesture about, or mocks the accent or appearance of a nurse, we do not tailor our lives to that person's unfair assumptions.

But wait!! Nobody has to be a fat nurse!! They chose that! Maybe they did. Maybe they didn't. But I am sure as hell not going to throw all in the same basket because their life history isn't written on their forehead. And I don't think being privy to an insulting remark some person makes about another person will be my rationale guiding my attitude going forward.

Isn't prejudice defined as something we decide about someone else before we know them? I would just love to be with a patient who demeaned a colleague who appeared "fat" because they are taking steroids to treat their lupus, RA, etc, are battling lymphedema, taking chemo that throws them into instant menopause, or psych drugs that enable them to be out in the world as a functioning member of society and support their families. I'd love to have that conversation.

I don't want to to talk about those people who huff and puff and wear ill-fitting scrubs, or whether it is true that fat nurses skip patient education because they are too embarrassed about being fat, etc. We can always find an extreme example of any quality to use as an excuse to denigrate others who share that quality. So I'm not going to go there.

Who on earth would put down someone's efforts to get themselves healthier in their own lives? I would hope nobody would. But to then use yourself as a silent yardstick that colors your attitude with respect to your function as a nurse is misplaced unless you have occasion to tell that patient about your story. And they have promised not to try to sidle out of the room just as you're about to get to the most riveting subsection or have their eyes slowly begin to glaze over ... kidding. . don't flame meeee :chair:

We can talk about people who are not physically up to the job, and we can talk about some of the atrocious scrub get-ups people arrive to work in, that's fair to talk about. It isn't singling out a particular group.

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The Dalai Lama said something once like:

You can choose to be happy or unhappy, it is entirely up to you. This applies to everything else in ur life.

To me, I can either choose to be obese or not obese, I can choose to lead a healthy lifestyle or not, I can choose to be happy or unhappy, bad tempered or good tempered. I can choose to eat junk, then decide if I want to exercise it off, or sit around, and do absolutely nothing.

You can take into account medications making you gain weight, but that does NOT stop you being healthy. People CHOOSE to be obese and unhealthy. Having worked with anorexics and on the bariatric level in psych, I see that people don't really want to change their lives. They have to WANT to change if they want to tone up, lose weight and feel better about themselves (and after they do change, they always feel better emotionally and physically).

Irregardless of what I or anyone else thinks, obese people must want that change for themselves. And I don't take excuses for being obese at work, if someone can't do their job, if they're puffing and panting and their knees hurt. They live in denial, and if they can't do their job, I'm certainly not pandering to them and doing it for them, and I'm not going to baby them either.

If you can't do your job because you're obese, you really need to take a long, hard look at your life and decide on some small changes at least.

If people can do their job and are obese, I don't care. That is their life CHOICE, not mine.

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Ignorance, along with bigotry are also choices.

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Ignorance, along with bigotry are also choices.

Is LMAO a choice?

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