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It has been pointed out to me that Ben Sasse is running for the Senate in Nebraska and has this on his web site under Religious Liberty.

"Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Americans to act in accordance with their conscience."

I have no problem with the sentiment but, does he realise what he has said? From what I can see he has just given everyone from the Boston Marathon bombers to the perpetrators of 9/11 a free pass.

The reason I ask here, is this is the only way I can get the opinion of large numbers of Americans.

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Ben Sasse is a smart man and prior to this senate run he was a very reasonable voice in the Republican party with well reasoned views. He seems to have now felt the need to adopt straight line tea party views which typically don't involve all that much reason. The above quote could apply to his currently stated views on either Obamacare or abortion, both issues I largely agree with him on. Unfortunately his more nuanced views prior to this senate run don't play well as tea party soundbites, the above quote does; it sounds great so long as you don't think about it too much.

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Prior to this primary election campaign, what involvement has Ben Sasse had with the Republican Party?

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Prior to this primary election campaign, what involvement has Ben Sasse had with the Republican Party?

He held a few different positions in the Bush administration. He's also been a prominent source of Republican party position statements for over a decade.

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To be clear, as someone not trying to get the support of the tea party there's a lot to like about him, when he starts contradicting his previous views to get tea party acceptance, not so much to like.

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Nebraska Senate Nominee Says Religious Beliefs Can Justify Breaking Any Law | ThinkProgress

here is a left wing take on his stance.

http://oldlife.org/2014/01/2k-candidate/

and one from a specific rel. POV.

My personal issue is treatment of women with this total acceptance of any religious POV. Many religions believe in the rights of men to beat women. There are many that justify genital mutilation as religious in basis. It would allow murders of family members as justified because of perceived disgrace of family.

It certainly supports the notion of many left wingers to not pay taxes if the taxes go for war.

In short, I believe it is a very bad way of interpretation of religious freedoms.

To me it looks like the pablum given to those who do not think things through. I think he is a very hard worker and certainly may represent the predominant views of Nebraska. I wonder how open most Nebraskans would be to some of the beliefs and practices of less common religions. Sacrifice of animals and people might raise eyebrows in some areas.

There are laws to protect and they have to walk a fine line not to deny religious freedoms.

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To me it looks like the pablum given to those who do not think things through. I think he is a very hard worker and certainly may represent the predominant views of Nebraska. I wonder how open most Nebraskans would be to some of the beliefs and practices of less common religions. Sacrifice of animals and people might raise eyebrows in some areas.

There are laws to protect and they have to walk a fine line not to deny religious freedoms.

What do you believe are the "predominant views of Nebraska" that Sasse may represent?

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Do you believe that a screenshot of a single comment from a Republican candidate's website, posted by a liberal organization with accompanying liberal commentary offers an accurate and unbiased representation of the candidate's position?

I sure hope not.

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https://www.sassefornebraska.com/issues/religious-liberty

Ben Sasse believes that our right to the free exercise of religion is co-equal to our right to life. This is not a negotiable issue. Government cannot force citizens to violate their religious beliefs under any circumstances. He will fight for the right of all Americans to act in accordance with their conscience.

UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

What qualifies as religious belief for Mr. Sasse?

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I gave credit to a left wing source. Don't look at it if it offends you. The other site was correctly ID-ed as a religious site. I believe the good people of Nebraska are hard working and think that most people are like themselves.

I certainly did not put up a screen shot of the candidate's views.

A question was asked, by someone outside the US, as to how we see this. I gave a variety of sources and views. I ID-ed my own bias.

Any problems? take it up with the First Amendment.

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I gave credit to a left wing source. Don't look at it if it offends you.

Yes, aky, I realize that you gave credit to the left wing source and its screen shot of a small portion of Ben Sasse's website. That's how I accessed the piece. I did not state otherwise, only asked whether you believe that to be an objective representation of the candidate's position. No offense taken by me, nor intended toward anyone else.

The other site was correctly ID-ed as a religious site.

Yes indeed. Again I did not indicate otherwise.

 

I believe the good people of Nebraska are hard working and think that most people are like themselves.

Do you think that Nebraskans believe that most people are like themselves in that they are hard working? How does that tie into one's "interpretation of religious freedoms?"

I certainly did not put up a screen shot of the candidate's views.

Nor did anyone here state that you did.

A question was asked, by someone outside the US, as to how we see this. I gave a variety of sources and views. I ID-ed my own bias. Any problems? take it up with the First Amendment.

What problems might those be, aky?

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