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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

Seriously?  A comparison to Lindsey Lohan.

What? Sorry, you lost me with that statement. Can you explain it please.

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2 hours ago, SC_RNDude said:

Seriously?  A comparison to Lindsey Lohan.

Sorry, I can’t say I’ve ever seen Ms. Lohan’s work. I presume you are referring to one of her movies?

I am actually comparing Shapiro to Trump. 

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13 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

Sorry, I can’t say I’ve ever seen Ms. Lohan’s work. I presume you are referring to one of her movies?

I am actually comparing Shapiro to Trump. 

I was referring to the article you posted.

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4 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Didn't you deflect?

No free speech for the four dead in Ohio.

No member of National Guard held responsible for those free speech deaths.

Read everything Google has to offer on the subject.

 

Oh wow. In your mind, we still must be living in "those days" when people were burned at the stake for being a witch.

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1 hour ago, SC_RNDude said:

I was referring to the article you posted.

I’m lost, I don’t think I posted an article in this thread. But seriously, is their a Lohan movie that uses that quote? 

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1 hour ago, nursej22 said:

I’m lost, I don’t think I posted an article in this thread. But seriously, is their a Lohan movie that uses that quote? 

Sorry.  I know realize it was another poster who linked the article, and it was your reply to it that I saw.

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3 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Oh wow. In your mind, we still must be living in "those days" when people were burned at the stake for being a witch.

How so?

I said nothing about witches, or burning people.

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17 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

The term first-generation, as it pertains to a person's nationality or residency in a country, has two incompatible meanings:

  • A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born, or a foreign-born citizen whose parents immigrated when that person was very young, that is, the first native-born generation.
  • A foreign born citizen or resident who has immigrated to a new country of residence, that is, the first generation to immigrate.

This ambiguity is captured and corroborated in The Oxford English Dictionary's definition of "generation":

...designating a member of the first (or second, etc.) generation of a family to do something or live somewhere; spec. designating a naturalized immigrant or a descendant of immigrant parents, esp. in the United States.... (OED definition of "generation," section 6b., the term "first generation" is used to refer to foreign-born residents (excluding those born abroad of American parents).[1]

There is no universal consensus on which of these meanings is always intended.

There is no consensus, but to nitpick I would say the poster is a foreign born immigrant citizen and that his/her children would be "First Generation Americans".  

I would say that Americans do a pretty good job with the "free speech" idea.  We give permits to hate groups to have their rally's in public.  I know at the Pride event I go to here hate groups are allowed to stand at the sidelines with their loud speakers and preach that God hates us.

It does become tricky when say a White Supremacist wants to speak at a public university that's allowed liberal speakers to speak.  The issue of public safety and violence is a big concern, and a costly one.  So does the university have the right to say "no you can't come here".  If they do is, is that a suppression of "free speech"?   

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9 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

How so?

I said nothing about witches, or burning people.

Is the U.S.A is still practicing the draconian style tactics used in those days that you used to explain your thoughts about "free speech?"

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57 minutes ago, Tweety said:

It does become tricky when say a White Supremacist wants to speak at a public university that's allowed liberal speakers to speak.  The issue of public safety and violence is a big concern, and a costly one.  So does the university have the right to say "no you can't come here".  If they do is, is that a suppression of "free speech"?   

The University reserves the right to ban a person/group whatever to go there. 

However, some criteria needs to be looked at.

a) public or private

b) is there a population group that invited those speakers

c) is there a space that has been reserved

 

Basically, what I see is this.

a) group of population in the school/college invited the "whomever."

b) they have the space reserved

c) the opposition (whomever. who cares) group starts burning and breaking stuff, and even barring the entrances of those buildings.

 

I can't think of a single instance where the "opposition group (whomever. who cares)" isn't a "non-conservative" though.

 

Pretty weird. ANTIFA group reminds me of European History..exactly what the goons of Mussolini has done.

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I remember nurses demonstrating in Oakland, CA for safe staffing. We had a permit and a police escort. 

Suddenly about twenty people dressed in black came up from the BART subway with rocks, frozen water bottles and lighters. They threw the rocks and bottles breaking store windows. They sprayed a curse word on a building. They started fires in trash cans, and disappeared back into the subway. 

Later the news papers called them Antifa. We were not right wing demonstrators. We were nurses trying to draw attention to the need for safe staffing in hospitals.

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