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38 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

Those who interrupted rudely interrupted the speaker, but didn't hurt anyone and left when asked. 

 

Thanks for posting, herring.

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3 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

People have the right to free speech. That is defined by our Constitution and the core philosophy in what it means to be an American.

You however, do not have the right to "prevent" that free speech (that congressperson you mentioned) or to block entrances or cause violence: calling that "protest."

 

You see how dangerous it can get? People have different opinions when it comes to "protests." 

The right to peacefully assemble.

The right to free speech.

 

Cannot be disputed. There was nothing peaceful about those "protesters."

A good deal of the time angry protestors are lead out by security and police.  Heck, even Trump said he'd pay lawyers fees for people who were  violent against his protestors.  

History has proved that protests can get dangerous.  I get what you're saying, people should be allowed free speech and say what they have to say.  So what are you proposing, that we ban protests?

 We already established that conservatives protest as well and interrupt speakers.  I've admitted here a long while back that people protesting liberal causes do tend to be more vocal, that escalates to violence occasionally.  If you're going to let the fringe group ANTIFA decide your affiliation then that's you're prerogative.  

I actually let a fringe group decide mine as well:  Evangelical Christians.    At least with liberal protestors they are out there.  These Christians merely whisper into the ears of politicians and throw lots of money their way to get what they want, and preach from the pulpit their agenda against the rest of us sinners and baby murderers.

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I took non-violence training. Then Bernice Johnson, who at 15 was in a Colored movie theater when the KKK  surrounded them shooting guns. That evening the verse, "We are not afraid and We Shall Overcome Some Day". 

Somehow even a blond herring fish wearing a herringbone dress sometimes had rocks, tomatoes, and eggs thrown at her when marching and singing. 

After I left the Red Cross the car radio announced the police who kicked in the head and beat drunk and handcuffed common criminal DUI suspect Rodney King were found innocent and had not even been disciplined.

I knew I was angry when I began singing "We Shall Not Be Moved"

Did anyone listen to Rev. Barber's talk?

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5 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Yes. Everyone "personal" around me votes for the GOP.

That includes,

immigrants, friends, work colleagues, investors, and business owners.

I should emphasize: First generation immigrants. Another phrase would be, "Naturalized Americans."

Again, you throw around immigration status as if it us rare, unusual, or somehow odd for an immigrant to hold socially progressive POVs. What generalized point do you believe that you are making? If you are saying that all of your family and friends are GOP voters, then I say, so? Maybe you should expand your personal interactions. Your comments sound either naive or hyperbolic.

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11 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Again, you throw around immigration status as if it us rare, unusual, or somehow odd for an immigrant to hold socially progressive POVs. What generalized point do you believe that you are making? If you are saying that all of your family and friends are GOP voters, then I say, so? Maybe you should expand your personal interactions. Your comments sound either naive or hyperbolic.

My political views are "socially progressive?" 

😂

Nah. We (immigrants around me) see exactly what the so called liberal party is about.

Increase taxes, punish success, and establish "any reason" to again, increase income taxes.

Thus punishing working Americans so that "everyone can get a fair shot."

 

Just that definition of the "fair shot," is seriously flawed.

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

My political views are "socially progressive?" 

😂

Nah. We (immigrants around me) see exactly what the so called liberal party is about.

Increase taxes, punish success, and establish "any reason" to again, increase income taxes.

Thus punishing working Americans so that "everyone can get a fair shot."

 

Just that definition of the "fair shot," is seriously flawed.

I didn't say that your views are socially progressive. I essentially said that you either live in a bubble or are hyperbolic.

It's funny that you believe taxation is punishment.  You have convinced me that there's nothing here to discuss. 

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2 hours ago, herring_RN said:

Is it Worth Arguing with Illogical People? If not, What Should You do?

https://timespek.com/arguing-illogical-people/   

Yea, it would sound illogical...

especially from the side that wants to "rid" the electoral college.

which actually is weird, from "our" side. But hey. Whatever gets you guys happy right? Change the game as we play along.

 

"Senate Democrats, led by Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz, and with support from Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin of Illinois, Dianne Feinstein of California and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York—also a 2020 presidential contender—introduced a constitutional amendment to do away with the institution altogether (Fortune, 2019)."

http://fortune.com/2019/04/02/abolish-the-electoral-college-votes/

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17 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Again, you throw around immigration status as if it us rare, unusual, or somehow odd for an immigrant to hold socially progressive POVs. What generalized point do you believe that you are making? If you are saying that all of your family and friends are GOP voters, then I say, so? Maybe you should expand your personal interactions. Your comments sound either naive or hyperbolic.

Isn't it the so called party of the Democrats who "claim" they are for the immigrants?

The immigrants that I speak to and know..all oppose them. Why? Again, they are trying to "roll this nation into what is, in foreign nations."

 

Maybe this analogy would make sense. You leave a nation that is in a state of mess (according to you), and you see a group of politicians trying to make your new found country into that state of mess.

 

It always ends up with : higher taxes.

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21 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Thanks for posting, herring.

Oh dear.

 

Those evil nazis. They PREVENTED the people from entering that STORE, by blocking the entrances, and setting fire on the grounds, causing havoc while beating and assaulting the participants?

 

Wait. I see dumb thugs that went into a facility, tried to disrupt a event they were having, and the dumb thugs all left.

 

Yea. The examples I have listed is a "mirror image" of your "link."

I mean. Apples and Oranges, right?

 

More like a Elephant versus a Kiwi.

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For those of you that lack the cognitive wherewithal to grasp the core agenda of my "disgust.."

Here is a simple phrase to help you guys understand.

 

A "group" of population that calls themselves Americans, are PREVENTING other Americans from receiving the ideologies (right or wrong) by a participant practicing their FREE SPEECH in a PRIVATE EVENT.

 

These are the tactics that has been used by countless of 

Dictators during "their" rise to power.

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3 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Wait. I see dumb thugs that went into a facility, tried to disrupt a event they were having, and the dumb thugs all left.

No they didn't disrupt with violence or start of fire, but they interrupted someone's right to free speech.  Isn't that what you are talking about? Or is it only wrong when someone sets a fire?

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