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Just now, KonichiwaRN said:

Ever read into those "campaign finance violations?"

Read it. Understand it. And then cross-check it (what the other side is doing).

That's a real nice appreciation for law and order right there.  You've got that GOP myth figured out.

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Yes. Although they are "also" for big government for some strange reason. Can't stand the Bush loyalists.

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14 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Yes. Although they are "also" for big government for some strange reason. Can't stand the Bush loyalists.

Another deflection that barely makes sense? Are we talking about the Bush family now? Aren't they considered RINOS in the Trumpublican party?

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5 hours ago, GrumpyRN said:

I think I have  a reason for the silliness of KonichiwaRN's antics when he replies.

He is a new immigrant to the US and also a new citizen. English would not be his first language so there are problems with translation. He seems to be inordinately proud of being an American so feels that America (his America) is perfect. He will quote some of the writings associated with America - the constitution, the declaration of independence etc. but does not understand the nuances of the words. He sees the conservative side of American politics as the way to be and the values he espouses to. "Socialism" of any kind is anathema to him. If he is a nurse he is very proud of that and will have no disagreement with the American healthcare system. 

What made me think this is the reply to me on page 15 where he said. "Bye bye. 🙂Meanwhile, we'll be voting". He seems to be under some impression that other countries do not vote. 

Have a think about it folks and if you agree or disagree. Either way I am being charitable here.

I love you Grumpy.

But seriously, why waste time trying to figure this people out?

It is a wasted effort.

Our newest poster amuses me.

On a very base level.

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Please provide us some links. These "conservatives" going around preventing free speech.

I have provided just "some" examples of these ANTIFA members disrupting our right, which is to practice Free Speech.

I gave you the example of White Nationalists at DC bookstore.

You ignored my example.

They tried to shut down book reading, but then left.

I imagine it is frightening to have a group of White Nationalists disrupt a book reading.

 

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

What game? We are merely having a discussion.

I asked for evidence. You stated there were conservatives that caused violence to disrupt free speech. I merely asked you for links to support your views.

 

Yes. D'Souza is a felon, just like Nelson was sent to prison.

I assume you're looking for references other than the obvious ones?  Take for instance the most prominent example of recent history, Charlottesville.  

The events of Charlottesville began with protests of the symbols of hate and discrimination that had been historically displayed in Charlottesville, which then led to the decision to remove some of these displays.  In response to those protests, far-right groups organized the "Unite the Right" rally.  Those exercising their freedom of speech to oppose the (unprotected) hate speech of the 'Unite the Right' group were then run down by a car driven by a participant of the far-right group, one person was killed.  Another person speaking out against the 'Unite the Right' group was severely beaten by white supremacists. 

It should be pointed out though that you're incorrectly suggesting an equivalency between hate speech and opposition of hate speech, these are not two competing protected forms of speech.

The issues at Berkeley that you initially referenced were examples where conservative speakers were not actually "banned", and the critical and legal response to Berkeley's failure to prioritize the need for free speech, regardless of how antagonizing it might be, over the safety concerns those events brought about are evidence that the American values of free speech are alive and well, not that we've lost them.  

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Those who interrupted rudely interrupted the speaker, but didn't hurt anyone and left when asked. 

 

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

"Mussolini created the first National Socialism, stripped of its German racial connotations. His was a vision of a nation organized along socialist lines in which everyone would share in the benefits and all would contribute their due portion. This language of course has Obama overtones, and we see an obvious congruence between the fascist unification and the modern progressive insistence that America is a single community and that everyone should come together and each one contribute his “fair share.” ..Mussolini’s shift from Marxian socialism to fascism must come as a huge surprise. In the progressive paradigm, Marxian socialism is the left end of the spectrum and fascism is the right end of the spectrum. Progressive incredulity becomes even greater when we see that Mussolini wasn’t just any socialist; he was the recognized head of the socialist movement in Italy.  (Dinesh, 2017)"

 

"Everyone would share in the benefits." Reminds me of a certain party here in this nation.

Where the blank did you get this? I have already told you that I was taught about this stuff when it was still fresh in peoples minds after they had spent 5 years fighting against it. Try to get a more balanced and accurate view of history than this criminal who required a pardon from Trump.

"Reminds me of a certain party here in this nation." Certainly does, D'Souza is a rabid conservative.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dinesh_D'Souza

 

(Mussolini was) Originally a revolutionary socialist, he forged the paramilitary fascist movement in 1919

 https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/benito-mussolini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/mussolini_benito.shtml

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8 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

 

People who support Trump and his policies, are right-wingers, not conservatives.

True conservatives abandoned Trump a long time ago.

I don't expect you to agree with me, and that is fine.

But I call them, like I see them, to borrow a line from Tweety!

 

If it makes you feel better to label those you disagree with with dehumanizing perjoratives, go right ahead. 

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2 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

"Mussolini created the first National Socialism, stripped of its German racial connotations. His was a vision of a nation organized along socialist lines in which everyone would share in the benefits and all would contribute their due portion. This language of course has Obama overtones, and we see an obvious congruence between the fascist unification and the modern progressive insistence that America is a single community and that everyone should come together and each one contribute his “fair share.” ..Mussolini’s shift from Marxian socialism to fascism must come as a huge surprise. In the progressive paradigm, Marxian socialism is the left end of the spectrum and fascism is the right end of the spectrum. Progressive incredulity becomes even greater when we see that Mussolini wasn’t just any socialist; he was the recognized head of the socialist movement in Italy.  (Dinesh, 2017)"

 

"Everyone would share in the benefits." Reminds me of a certain party here in this nation.

I assume you're referencing Reagan's "Vision for America" speech, aka his "Shining City on a Hill" speech, which is often referenced as defining what conservativism hoped to be, which had as it's main theme that what makes America great is that all Americans benefit from our greatness.

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21 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

If it makes you feel better to label those you disagree with with dehumanizing perjoratives, go right ahead. 

I don't consider the moniker right wing, dehumanizing.

It is very far from dehumanizing.

Nor do I consider the term left wing dehumanizing.

I gave examples of what I consider conservative.

There is a difference.

Dehumanizing, is calling a person a LOSER.

Granted, I use that term to describe Trump.

But he uses dehumanizing terms constantly and his defenders are just fine with it.

Should I have felt dehumanized when another poster called me, or my ideas left wing?

I did not.

My skin is thicker than that.

I did object to being called sad and pathetic, by the same poster.

 

Edited by Lil Nel

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