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The National Guard was in the wrong there. Weren't they?

The students had all the right to both peacefully assemble, and voice their mind.

 

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13 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

The National Guard was in the wrong there. Weren't they?

The students had all the right to both peacefully assemble, and voice their mind.

 

If you know your US history, then you know no one was held responsible for those free speech deaths.

If you believe unfettered free speech is supported here, you are in the wrong country.

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No free speech for Heather Heyer. 

Peaceful protesters are routinely pepper sprayed and abused in this country, there's a long history of it. Do you remember when this happened? The Atlantic

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On 5/7/2019 at 2:21 AM, KonichiwaRN said:

Your assumption, is wrong. By the use of my English skills, I would assume it would be apparent I'd know the difference between first generation and second generation families. 

Let me put it in layman terms. I wasn't born in this nation and I was in my adult years when I moved to this nation, first as a foreigner--and now living here as an American.

The term first-generation, as it pertains to a person's nationality or residency in a country, has two incompatible meanings:

  • A native-born citizen or resident of a country whose parents are foreign born, or a foreign-born citizen whose parents immigrated when that person was very young, that is, the first native-born generation.
  • A foreign born citizen or resident who has immigrated to a new country of residence, that is, the first generation to immigrate.

This ambiguity is captured and corroborated in The Oxford English Dictionary's definition of "generation":

...designating a member of the first (or second, etc.) generation of a family to do something or live somewhere; spec. designating a naturalized immigrant or a descendant of immigrant parents, esp. in the United States.... (OED definition of "generation," section 6b., the term "first generation" is used to refer to foreign-born residents (excluding those born abroad of American parents).[1]

There is no universal consensus on which of these meanings is always intended.

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On 5/6/2019 at 3:06 PM, KonichiwaRN said:

All you have to do is just google up Ben Shapiro or Dinesh Dsouza's speaking events (privately held) and see the horde try to prevent people from listening to them.

We have the freedom of speech. We however, do not have the right to prevent others from speaking, either if we disagree or agree, at a privately held event.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ben-shapiro-andrew-neil-bbc-interview-absolutely-destroyed-a8908791.html

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So we're now deflecting? 🙂 I'm sure the 41 second clip of Ben Shaprio gives that entire picture of the "debate." I mean, that makes sense, right?

Back to the original story:

 

People "banning" free speech. Why? Because they, using their minds, get the supposed right to determine what is good and what is evil.

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On 5/6/2019 at 5:49 AM, KonichiwaRN said:

Kind of reminds me of European history. The brownshirts going around banning public speakers from speaking out loud.

Please don't use historical references unless you actually understand them. The brown shirts are more reminiscent of Trump supporters at one of his rally's. You know, the ones where he says people should be punched.

https://www.historyhit.com/hitlers-bullyboys-the-role-of-the-sa-in-nazi-germany/

20 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

So we're now deflecting? 🙂 I'm sure the 41 second clip of Ben Shaprio gives that entire picture of the "debate." I mean, that makes sense, right?

Back to the original story:

 

People "banning" free speech. Why? Because they, using their minds, get the supposed right to determine what is good and what is evil.

I gave a link to a newspaper report of the interview which showed the petulance. However the full interview is here;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48230588/andrew-neil-and-ben-shapiro-on-abortion-obama-and-middle-east

The problem with Ben Shapiro is he did not do his homework and to call Andrew Neil "left wing" or an "opinion" journalist is stupid in the extreme.

The BBC is noted for its tough questioning and independent journalists. I watched the interview and it seems that Shapiro was hoping for a friendly interview along the lines of the talking heads from Fox.

I support completely Shapiro's right to say what he wants but he has to be able to defend it against questioning.

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15 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

So we're now deflecting? 🙂 I'm sure the 41 second clip of Ben Shaprio gives that entire picture of the "debate." I mean, that makes sense, right?

Back to the original story:

 

People "banning" free speech. Why? Because they, using their minds, get the supposed right to determine what is good and what is evil.

Didn't you deflect?

No free speech for the four dead in Ohio.

No member of National Guard held responsible for those free speech deaths.

Read everything Google has to offer on the subject.

 

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1 minute ago, GrumpyRN said:

Please don't use historical references unless you actually understand them. The brown shirts are more reminiscent of Trump supporters at one of his rally's. You know, the ones where he says people should be punched .

I gave a link to a newspaper report of the interview which showed the petulance. However the full interview is here;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48230588/andrew-neil-and-ben-shapiro-on-abortion-obama-and-middle-east

The problem with Ben Shapiro is he did not do his homework and to call Andrew Neil "left wing" or an "opinion" journalist is stupid in the extreme.

The BBC is noted for its tough questioning and independent journalists. I watched the interview and it seems that Shapiro was hoping for a friendly interview along the lines of the talking heads from Fox.

I support completely Shapiro's right to say what he wants but he has to be able to defend it against questioning.

Aww, Grumpy, now Trumpsters are calling for immigrants at Southern border to be shot, and Trump laughs at the idea.

I hope Londoners will give Trump the same "rousing" welcome during his upcoming UK trip, as they did last year.

It warmed my heart, to see so many people utilizing their free speech rights, yet harming no one, and not calling for anyone to be shot!

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Then we agree on that one. 🙂

 

Speakers should have the right to speech. As long as that supposed "freedom of speech" does not involve..

 

Going to a place uninvited, should that place be a private facility demanding that they get a voice.

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2 hours ago, nursej22 said:

I saw this earlier. From what I have learned about Ben Shapiro, facts are what ever he says they are.

 

Seriously?  A comparison to Lindsey Lohan.

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