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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

^^^yes this.  The one and only example of racism  believed was against his own race, Asians.  That says enough right there.

However, I would say that when it comes down to law racism is illegal and by law "all people are created equal".    It's a core value that most of us believe in.

Never mind that we had to have a Civil War and Abe Lincoln had to remind of us this.

The sad thing is that people have to go to court over and over and over again to this day to remind people of this.

 

When was the Civil War? When was Lincoln? When was the civil rights movement?

 

Are we still living in those days?

 

Again to the main point where you guys brought up. Where is this evidence of "systemic racism" that exists in this nation?

Which government? Which company?

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Countless of evidence provided?

Back from the civil war days..or the days of Jim Crow..where minorities were "forced" to drink using a separate water fountain and the Chinese people working the railroads.

 

Today. THIS day in age.

 

Doesn't exit. None. 

 

Prison population? Why do I then not see Asians or Indians (alright, Asians) in that scenario then?

 

I'm a "ethnic minority" by the way. Had to stress that. 🙂 

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12 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Actually.

It DOES exist! Institutional racism DOES exist!

I was wrong. 😞

Here:

https://nypost.com/2018/10/17/harvards-gatekeeper-reveals-sat-cutoff-scores-based-on-race/

 

They are discriminating against my race, Asians.

Yes. 

I already posted about that.

You must have missed my post, in response to you saying racism examples were in the past.

I brought up the Harvard lawsuit.

You are welcome! 😊

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10 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

According to the article..it says this : "The judges who declared the state's partisan gerrymander unconstitutional on Monday adopted the roadmap of liberal Supreme Court justices (CNN, 2018).."

 

Judges. So where were we?

Oh yes. I was looking for that "systemic racism" you guys boast exists here in this nation.

So far, I was only able to bring up one instance..and that is with Harvard and Asians.

Wrong. 

Eric Gardner.

Google him.

You will get an understanding of how racism from the past, is racism of the present.

 

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8 hours ago, nursej22 said:

Give it up guys. It is impossible to have a discussion with someone who keeps changing their definition, and ignores actual evidence.. We have supplied several instances, and are met with inane declarations and non sequiturs . 

 

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”


 Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Isn't this simply an example of the same tactics used by other right-wing posters?

I see no difference between the tactics they use, and this poster.

It is all the same, and part of a familiar pattern.

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4 hours ago, Tweety said:

^^^yes this.  The one and only example of racism  believed was against his own race, Asians.  That says enough right there.

However, I would say that when it comes down to law racism is illegal and by law "all people are created equal".    It's a core value that most of us believe in.

Never mind that we had to have a Civil War and Abe Lincoln had to remind of us this.

The sad thing is that people have to go to court over and over and over again to this day to remind people of this.

 

That is because we continue to fight the Civil War daily.

Individual human beings were owned by other individual, human beings, for hundreds of years in this country.

Some used the Bible to defend the practice.

Some used the argument of state's rights, to defend the practice.

Slavery is still defended today, in parts of the country, via incorrect interpretations of slavery, at historical sites.

Why do we honor the generals of treason?

Why, does anyone in the 21st century believe that slavery was "good" for Black people?

Because the civil war continues.

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31 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

When was the Civil War? When was Lincoln? When was the civil rights movement?

 

Are we still living in those days?

 

Again to the main point where you guys brought up. Where is this evidence of "systemic racism" that exists in this nation?

Which government? Which company?

Goggle Eric Garner.

Google Sandra Bland.

Goggle current segregation in US schools.

Google Brown v Board of Education, 1954 and 1955.

Tell us what you find.

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26 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Countless of evidence provided?

Back from the civil war days..or the days of Jim Crow..where minorities were "forced" to drink using a separate water fountain and the Chinese people working the railroads.

 

Today. THIS day in age.

 

Doesn't exit. None. 

 

Prison population? Why do I then not see Asians or Indians (alright, Asians) in that scenario then?

 

I'm a "ethnic minority" by the way. Had to stress that. 🙂 

You do understand that the majority of Native Americans in this country live on tribal lands, also referred to as reservations, don't you?

Why do you think that is?

Why do you think, the first population in this country is relegated to reservations?

The view?

It is difficult to hold a discussion with someone who is not well-educated in US history.

Again, you can't understand the present, without knowledge of the past.

You lack knowledge of the past, and so your arguments about the present, seem to only hold together in your own mind.

But that is okay, as it is your viewpoint only, and thus affects you.

 

 

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10 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

"Under a 2017 Georgia law, a voter registration application is complete if information on that form exactly matches records kept by Georgia’s Department of Driver Services or the Social Security Administration (Politifact)."

 

So, sounds like it's Georgia's laws when it comes to voter registration.

That's "racist now?"

Please read this lawsuit. 

More than fifty thousand voters, more than 80% of whom were African American were REMOVED from voter rolls because their voter registration did not match the information transcribed from driver's license information, or because they were not listed as an American citizen, even though they sent an official copy of their citizenship papers with their registration form.

An example can be as simple as this:

The address on the voter registration stated 504 Walnut Ave.

The address on the driver's license was 504 Walnut Ave

The voter was removed from voter rolls! 

Please read this:   https://lawyerscommittee.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Georgia-exact-match-complaint-.pdf 

 

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Countless of evidence provided?

Back from the civil war days..or the days of Jim Crow..where minorities were "forced" to drink using a separate water fountain and the Chinese people working the railroads.

 

Today. THIS day in age.

 

Doesn't exit. None. 

 

Prison population? Why do I then not see Asians or Indians (alright, Asians) in that scenario then?

 

I'm a "ethnic minority" by the way. Had to stress that. 🙂 

Did you watch the documentary I recommended? Actually I no longer care! You have been provided with evidence after evidence of "systemic racism" in America from disenfranchising black voters, to inequality in prison sentencing, to higher risk of black people being shot and killed by police but none of it is good enough for you.

WHAT DO YOU WANT? Do you actually know what systemic racism is? Please tell us what your definition of systemic racism is. It appears that if it does not affect you then because you are an "ethnic minority" it does not exist.

If you do not answer my questions sensibly then I am out. I believe that you are a troll and are being deliberately obtuse. Prove me wrong.

 

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I'm thinking troll, myself.  New member, never posted on any other areas of the site, and no information in his profile.  I'm not going to waste my time engaging.

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Just now, GrumpyRN said:

WHAT DO YOU WANT? Do you actually know what systemic racism is? Please tell us what your definition of systemic racism is. 

 

 

Systemic Racism: 

A deliberate framework that prevents a person; that is of a certain color, ethnicity, or belief system-- from having access to goods and services that other people have. (e.g: legal system. do we deny representation based by ethnicity? education. do we deny admissions based by color? success: is success guaranteed in the free market?)

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