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Didn't the CNN article just summarize that as..

Gerrymandering was unconstitutional by the Supreme court of NC?

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22 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Didn't the CNN article just summarize that as..

Gerrymandering was unconstitutional by the Supreme court of NC?

NO. The Supreme Court of the United States ruled that racial Gerrymandering is unconstitutional. 

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The Supreme Court Finds North Carolina's Racial Gerrymandering Unconstitutional

The justices end a six-year fight over 2011 congressional maps that diluted black voting strength in the state...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/north-carolina-gerrymandering/527592/

I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court has not yet accepted a case about the constitutionality of political gerrymandering. 

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According to the article..it says this : "The judges who declared the state's partisan gerrymander unconstitutional on Monday adopted the roadmap of liberal Supreme Court justices (CNN, 2018).."

 

Judges. So where were we?

Oh yes. I was looking for that "systemic racism" you guys boast exists here in this nation.

So far, I was only able to bring up one instance..and that is with Harvard and Asians.

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3 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

The absence of the "systemic racism" in place..as the population that believes in such rhetoric cannot prove.

 

If you state it, the burden of proof exists on your shoulders. So far, I've been hearing their side give examples from the colonial days, civil war days, and the days of Jim Crow laws.

You said that your opinion on the topic is derived from evidence. I asked what evidence.  

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6 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

So your excuse and your "evidence.."

is two qualified individuals and since the minority race did not get the spot..that is automatic racism.

Really sounds legit? I don't think so.

One of the examples already provided to you was of Georgia's 'exact match' law, which was found to be illegal by a US federal district court due to it's racial bias.  If you disagree with the court's ruling, feel free to debate that, but just because you really want to believe this things don't happen doesn't mean they don't actually happen.

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"Under a 2017 Georgia law, a voter registration application is complete if information on that form exactly matches records kept by Georgia’s Department of Driver Services or the Social Security Administration (Politifact)."

 

So, sounds like it's Georgia's laws when it comes to voter registration.

That's "racist now?"

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56 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You said that your opinion on the topic is derived from evidence. I asked what evidence.  

The absence of evidence of your side's claim..that there is systemic racism practiced in this nation today.

 

You guys are claiming it exists. Where is it?

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19 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

The absence of evidence of your side's claim..that there is systemic racism practiced in this nation today.

 

You guys are claiming it exists. Where is it?

There's not an absence of evidence. There's an absence of evidence that you will accept in your exercise. 

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Give it up guys. It is impossible to have a discussion with someone who keeps changing their definition, and ignores actual evidence.. We have supplied several instances, and are met with inane declarations and non sequiturs . 

 

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”


 Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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1 hour ago, nursej22 said:

Give it up guys. It is impossible to have a discussion with someone who keeps changing their definition, and ignores actual evidence.. We have supplied several instances, and are met with inane declarations and non sequiturs . 

 

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”


 Daniel Patrick Moynihan

I agree with you nursej but one more try.

Konichiwan, there is a documentary (on Netflix at the moment) called 13th. It shows the imbalance between prison sentences between white and black in America. Watch that then come back and tell us there is no institutional racism.

 

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4 hours ago, nursej22 said:

Give it up guys. It is impossible to have a discussion with someone who keeps changing their definition, and ignores actual evidence.. We have supplied several instances, and are met with inane declarations and non sequiturs . 

 

“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”


 Daniel Patrick Moynihan

^^^yes this.  The one and only example of racism  believed was against his own race, Asians.  That says enough right there.

However, I would say that when it comes down to law racism is illegal and by law "all people are created equal".    It's a core value that most of us believe in.

Never mind that we had to have a Civil War and Abe Lincoln had to remind of us this.

The sad thing is that people have to go to court over and over and over again to this day to remind people of this.

 

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13 hours ago, Lil Nel said:

Your posts suggest you are a newborn, with no knowledge of how the past influences the present and future.

You are engaging with people, some whom actively participated in the civil rights struggle.

Some actively participate in the daily struggle of women, in the US, to achieve equal rights.

Holocaust survivors are still alive.

And so on.

To be taken seriously, you must get past the neonate stage.

Yes. That is exactly why I am asking you guys for "evidence" for your claim of systemic racism that is practiced by the government of the United States of America.

 

Please do. 🙂 Or just admit, you can't because there is no evidence. Obviously, veracity is not really your strong point.

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