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35 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Mark Harris.

 

An INDIVIDUAL. Does that person represent a system? Did that person get caught?

Again, notice :individuals: versus, a "system."

It was NOT just one individual. It was also Georgia, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, and other state elected Republicans in charge of upholding fair elections. It has been going on for decades. And continues today taking away the voting rights of thousands of American citizens. I wish people would read an article, report, or document before posting an opinion about it. Or even readthe quote bolded below?

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This was just one of several instances of apparent voter suppression in the 2018 midterm elections...

https://newsone.com/3846616/north-carolina-republicans-voter-suppression/ 

 

 

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Voter Suppression During the 2018 Midterm Elections

In an election where so much was at stake, countless Americans were prevented from making their voices heard because of voter suppression and other Election Day problems...

...   Eligible Americans are prevented from voting due to barriers in the voter registration process, restrictions on casting ballots, and discriminatory and partisan-rigged district maps. Voter suppression measures can differ by state and even by individual county...

...   This year—perhaps uncoincidentally—severe voter suppression occurred in states with highly competitive political races, including Georgia, Texas, Florida, and North Dakota. Policies and practices that limit participation by even a few thousand votes can mean the difference between victory and defeat in competitive elections. When voters cast a ballot, they expect their votes to matter in choosing representatives who are responsive to, reflective of, and accountable to the communities they represent. Yet when voter suppression occurs, election results may be less reflective of constituents’ actual will...

 https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/11/20/461296/voter-suppression-2018-midterm-elections/

 

 

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1 minute ago, herring_RN said:

It was NOT just one individual. It was also Georgia, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, and other state elected Republicans in charge of upholding fair elections. It has been going on for decades. And continues today taking away the voting rights of thousands of American citizens. I wish people would read an article, report, or document before posting an opinion about it. Or even readthe quote bolded below?

 

 

So since it was so rampant..

there must be evidence and court cases that backs up the argument?

 

Oh. Is it just allegations? Or is it asking for a driver's license is too much?

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5 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

So since it was so rampant..

there must be evidence and court cases that backs up the argument?

 

Oh. Is it just allegations? Or is it asking for a driver's license is too much?

Herring's post specifically referenced articles that go into the evidence and relevant court cases at length.  https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/democracy/reports/2018/11/20/461296/voter-suppression-2018-midterm-elections/ 

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If you actually saw Herring's article of choice and its topic..

you would actually see that those are allegations and derived from "individuals." What was the result of the hearing? They had a hearing, right?

Didn't they have another vote?

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6 hours ago, Tweety said:

I actually understand what you are saying here.  Immigrants such as yourself that have actually had to study the constitution understand it more than a lot of people born here.  

That is what the founders believed that "all human beings are created equal under the law".  However, it was written in a time when Americans owned slaves.  African Americans had to fight all the way up to the 1960's for the right to not be forced to the back of the bus.  Gay people had to fight in the 1970's and are still fighting today for the right to be considered equal.

Like I said before, a lot of people want and think the Bible overrides the constitution.  Our Vice President even hinted at this during his first speeches when Trump appointed him "I'm a Christian first".   Amy Coney Barrett, a circuit court judge appointed by Trump has suggested that religion overrules the Constitution.  

Yes, sadly people don't understand that we're all created equal all these hundreds of years later.

The problem is dogma, Tweety.

As I stated earlier, the strides this nation has made, including people, not covered by the Constitution, is due to people who understand the document is a living one.

When people strictly adhere to dogma, such a religious or otherwise, there are problems.

Our founders choose to include separation of church and state, for good reasons.

They witnessed religious intolerance and persecution.

My home state, RI, was founded by Roger Williams. He was driven out of MA, by the Purtians.

John Adams, a leader of the American Revolution, was deeply spiritual, yet attended Protestant and Catholic worship services. He shopped around.

Thomas Jefferson, belittled the religious, in private.

Our founders never identified as "Christians first," as you suggested Pence does.

They self-identified as Adams did, as "a Massachusetts man."

People like Pence dishonor our country's true history, and seek to placate the rabid base.

It is sad. I agree.

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Just one piece of evidence?

That the United States of America, has a racist system that targets minorities?

Just one piece of evidence? 

 

hmm. Doesn't sound very valid.

Again, believe what you prefer. The fact that you are seemingly unaware of the plethora of well known examples of institutional racism or misogyny in this country speaks to your personal bias.  

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2 hours ago, KonichiwaRN said:

If that scenario is actually the case due to a "racist system in place," then, why do I not see Asians in that picture as well?

 

There you go, the criteria isn't any example of racism, it has to be racism directed toward all minorities. 

Funny, the previous administration seem to have no trouble finding people who represented multiple races and ethnicities, and both genders to fill key positions. I am not saying race should be a criteria, but it should be a condition of exclusion. 

I think it's pretty obvious when of the 2 women  originally appointed to the cabinet, one was married to the Senate Majority Leader and the other, a child of immigrants and a governor was appointed to the United Nations. The only male cabinet secretary who is black was appointed to HUD, which as a neurosurgeon was definitely qualified for. Duh. 

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3 hours ago, herring_RN said:

It was NOT just one individual. It was also Georgia, Florida, Texas, Mississippi, and other state elected Republicans in charge of upholding fair elections. It has been going on for decades. And continues today taking away the voting rights of thousands of American citizens. I wish people would read an article, report, or document before posting an opinion about it. Or even readthe quote bolded below?

 

 

Accusation = automatic guilty verdict?

Must be a really fun process. I mean, come on. No proof, no evidence and all it takes is a mere accusation.

 

I thought we kind of evolved from the Salem Witch hunt days.

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25 minutes ago, nursej22 said:

There you go, the criteria isn't any example of racism, it has to be racism directed toward all minorities. 

Funny, the previous administration seem to have no trouble finding people who represented multiple races and ethnicities, and both genders to fill key positions. I am not saying race should be a criteria, but it should be a condition of exclusion. 

I think it's pretty obvious when of the 2 women  originally appointed to the cabinet, one was married to the Senate Majority Leader and the other, a child of immigrants and a governor was appointed to the United Nations. The only male cabinet secretary who is black was appointed to HUD, which as a neurosurgeon was definitely qualified for. Duh. 

So your excuse and your "evidence.."

is two qualified individuals and since the minority race did not get the spot..that is automatic racism.

Really sounds legit? I don't think so.

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4 minutes ago, KonichiwaRN said:

 

Really sounds legit? I don't think so.

As a previous poster stated, you are free to think whatever you want. 

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Yes, of course.

It's just that my thought derives from evidence based reality of how things are in this nation.

And I'm looking at it "as a minority." 🙂

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1 hour ago, KonichiwaRN said:

Yes, of course.

It's just that my thought derives from evidence based reality of how things are in this nation.

And I'm looking at it "as a minority." 🙂

The reality is, this nation has a deeply racist past, as evidenced by a history of slavery, the Chinese Exclusion Act, the incarceration of Japanese-Americans during WWII, and so on.

It continues today, as evidenced by the number of Black people killed daily in this country by police, during routine traffic stops.

You like to reference the Salem Witch Trials.

Interesting.

Witch hunt.

Where have I read and heard this line of thinking?

Right-wingers, of course!

They play it like a broken record.

They offer up the same old, tired lines, and ways of thinking.

Nothing new.

Heard it all before 

Again, nothing new.

 

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